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Is there any reason whatsoever why one should buy the FX-8350 over the FX-8320? I ask because I'd love to save that $20 bucks and invest it in other components

Also, between these three motherboards which is the best for overclocking and which is more feature rich: Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z, Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0, and Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5?
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No, the first one.
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Is there any reason whatsoever why one should buy the FX-8350 over the FX-8320? I ask because I'd love to save that $20 bucks and invest it in other components

Also, between these three motherboards which is the best for overclocking and which is more feature rich: Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z, Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0, and Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5?

FX 8320 vs FX 8350 - Depends how much you want to overclock it. This revision is much different compared to Bulldozer in that there are less 8320's that reach the level of 8350 on the same voltages. (compared to many 8120's that clocked the same as 8150's)

So if you are going for high clocks then you'll have better luck with a better binned 8350. Judging by your motherboard choices, you are.
Best for Overclocking, is the Formula-Z and from Gigabyte I believe is the UD7.

The Sabertooth is not far behind the Formula-Z though.
Edited by ComputerRestore - 2/8/13 at 4:48pm
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I used Prime last night after running the 20 passes in IBT AVX just to see how hot it could get. Have to get past the first set of tests and then you'll REALLY see it cooking. I did this in preparation of the summer months.

I know what you mean. My computer is in my solarium. Quite hot even with air conditioning in the summer.Very cool now in the winter even with the heat on in the room.
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Is there any reason whatsoever why one should buy the FX-8350 over the FX-8320? I ask because I'd love to save that $20 bucks and invest it in other components

Also, between these three motherboards which is the best for overclocking and which is more feature rich: Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z, Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0, and Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5?

8320s require more voltage to do the same speed 8350s do.

The CH-V-FZ is the most feature rich, but anything from the 990FXA-UD3 and up can max out your chip (UD5/7, Saber, CH, etc) if you have the cooling.
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I just realized I never posted pics of my new build (to those familiar with the fiasco going on 2 weeks ago).

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Well my post from yesterday didn't get answers or help so maybe try again or to get some basic info or help on the fluctuations I'm getting.

Have GA-990FXA-UD3 W/8350 CPU. supposedly that board is meant to self throttle a bit under load...that true? Even when volts are low and temps are more then fine? 1.395v-1.475v and 38-48 degrees...
I can easily oc to 4.5GHz and up to 4.9GHz with more fine tuning but no matter what..even at stock 4Ghz with auto voltage and LLC low or high and low temps it keeps going down to 3.5 or 2.5Ghz for a split second (v drops too) repeatedly. This normal?
As for higher voltage overall, I realized that "extreme" LLC was causing it to go in the 1.51-1.55 range which I didn't like but I thought high LLC was recommended.

So can someone here please help me and advise on these fluctuations at all? Much appreciated!

And lastly, my original inquiry. Is this GA mobo recommended? Is it the culprit? I'm considering switch to Asus M5A99FX Pro R2. What do u all think and prefer? I mainly am concerned about the supposed better vrm and digi+ power controls and more(and better) BIOS options for over clocking this chip. You agree? Should I switch?

Thanks to any who can lend some advise/info on these things!
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Well my post from yesterday didn't get answers or help so maybe try again or to get some basic info or help on the fluctuations I'm getting.

Have GA-990FXA-UD3 W/8350 CPU. supposedly that board is meant to self throttle a bit under load...that true? Even when volts are low and temps are more then fine? 1.395v-1.475v and 38-48 degrees...
I can easily oc to 4.5GHz and up to 4.9GHz with more fine tuning but no matter what..even at stock 4Ghz with auto voltage and LLC low or high and low temps it keeps going down to 3.5 or 2.5Ghz for a split second (v drops too) repeatedly. This normal?
As for higher voltage overall, I realized that "extreme" LLC was causing it to go in the 1.51-1.55 range which I didn't like but I thought high LLC was recommended.

So can someone here please help me and advise on these fluctuations at all? Much appreciated!

And lastly, my original inquiry. Is this GA mobo recommended? Is it the culprit? I'm considering switch to Asus M5A99FX Pro R2. What do u all think and prefer? I mainly am concerned about the supposed better vrm and digi+ power controls and more(and better) BIOS options for over clocking this chip. You agree? Should I switch?

Thanks to any who can lend some advise/info on these things!

Well, I may not be much help because I'm definitely a bit new to the OC scene, but I'll try. Take it for what it's worth, and if I sound stupid, I apologize. I'm trying my best since it appears that no one else has offered anything. I didn't see your last post, and I'm a tad lazy, so I didn't look it up, so forgive me if the following were addressed in your previous post. I also hope not to insult your intelligence here.

  • If AMD turbo core is on, disable it. It can dynamically change clock speeds.
  • If Cool 'n Quiet is on, disable it. It can also dynamically change clock speeds.
  • Find any other possible power saving options in the UEFI/BIOS that you can and disable them (this can vary by BIOS, you'll need to research all the settings in your particular board).
  • 1.55v is the upper end of AMD's safe recommendations. I wouldn't even take it that far, and for 4.9 (?) GHz, that's still too high. Try Ultra High LLC, and I'd recommend keeping it at or under 1.5v myself.
  • If Ultra High LLC doesn't produce better voltages (1.5v or less), and you have it set manually under 1.5v, make sure you're already at the lowest possible stable manual voltage to begin with.
  • There's nothing wrong with the GA-990FXA that I know of, but I've never personally used it. Lots of people in this thread do with no problems that I've heard though.

That's the best I can personally do - I hope it helps!
Edited by Clowerweb - 2/8/13 at 9:25pm
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Well my post from yesterday didn't get answers or help so maybe try again or to get some basic info or help on the fluctuations I'm getting.

Have GA-990FXA-UD3 W/8350 CPU. supposedly that board is meant to self throttle a bit under load...that true? Even when volts are low and temps are more then fine? 1.395v-1.475v and 38-48 degrees...
I can easily oc to 4.5GHz and up to 4.9GHz with more fine tuning but no matter what..even at stock 4Ghz with auto voltage and LLC low or high and low temps it keeps going down to 3.5 or 2.5Ghz for a split second (v drops too) repeatedly. This normal?
As for higher voltage overall, I realized that "extreme" LLC was causing it to go in the 1.51-1.55 range which I didn't like but I thought high LLC was recommended.

So can someone here please help me and advise on these fluctuations at all? Much appreciated!

And lastly, my original inquiry. Is this GA mobo recommended? Is it the culprit? I'm considering switch to Asus M5A99FX Pro R2. What do u all think and prefer? I mainly am concerned about the supposed better vrm and digi+ power controls and more(and better) BIOS options for over clocking this chip. You agree? Should I switch?

Thanks to any who can lend some advise/info on these things!

If you have Revision 3.0 board, I have seen a suggestion in the other thread to turn ON HPC mode to stop the throttling. It is under the power options if I remember correctly. I returned my UD3 because of this behavior, the UEFI is not very good right now. It is NOT the board, it is the UEFI. The prior revisions with BIOS worked fine.
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Well, I may not be much help because I'm definitely a bit new to the OC scene, but I'll try. Take it for what it's worth, and if I sound stupid, I apologize. I'm trying my best since it appears that no one else has offered anything. I didn't see your last post, and I'm a tad lazy, so I didn't look it up, so forgive me if the following were addressed in your previous post. I also hope not to insult your intelligence here.

  • If AMD turbo core is on, disable it. It can dynamically change clock speeds.
  • If Cool 'n Quiet is on, disable it. It can also dynamically change clock speeds.
  • Find any other possible power saving options in the UEFI/BIOS that you can and disable them (this can vary by BIOS, you'll need to research all the settings in your particular board).
  • 1.55v is the upper end of AMD's safe recommendations. I wouldn't even take it that far, and for 4.9 (?) GHz, that's still too high. Try Ultra High LLC, and I'd recommend keeping it at or under 1.5v myself.
  • If Ultra High LLC doesn't produce better voltages (1.5v or less), and you have it set manually under 1.5v, make sure you're already at the lowest possible stable manual voltage to begin with.
  • There's nothing wrong with the GA-990FXA that I know of, but I've never personally used it. Lots of people in this thread do with no problems that I've heard though.

That's the best I can personally do - I hope it helps!

Thanks for reply and info! But ya I already had all of the power saving and clock adjustment settings in bios disabled. Definitely always keep 1.55v as high end of spectrum.
I just read on the Gigabyte mobo thread that the throttling is a known issue!
Everyone says disable APM but REV3 boards don't have that in bios (flashed latest)..one person said to ENABLE HPM and that would take care of throttling. Not sure how that would help but gonna try it! Hope it works...need to solve this..other then that board is great..oc very high and stable.low temps.
But do most prefer the extra bios features of Asus? And better vrm n power controls?
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