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OCCT and Prime95 are better at detecting errors related to OC (lack of voltage of chip limitations) because they have the ability to set the instruction size. Large data sets detect errors where as small data sets push the heat envelope.

Both are useful. I personally use IBT first to make sure Im comfortable with the temp @ load, Then use OCCT with its default "Large data set" to check for errors for an hour or so. THEN I switch to prime 95 in custom set to run 85% of total memory (8k fft - 4096 fft) for the long haul test (overnight kinda deal) to ensure the OC is stable.

You just want to make sure you can pinpoint the issue when it happens with a OC. It will be one of three things: 1. Max heat related 2. Chip limitations (which the NB / IMC normally gives out first) 3. Memory related.

Waiting to get my h100i for i5 , so i can then swap evo 212 to my fx8320 , i know i already could bench 21.5x multi and 220 fsb @ ~4,7-4,8 gigs with 1.52v just for lulz.
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I think one of my issues is my PSu as well.

OCZ700MSXP doesnt list, but the Sticker says 12v1 25A, 12v2 25A,

So Im assuming it's a split rail, and 25A is not really enough to feed my GPU Overclocked (I'll rectify this next weekend with qa quality PSU (1000W with 1 single 75A Rail)
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Must be why this morning when i tried 5ghz i was my voltage go up in cpu-z then it just froze, my cougar sx850 got 4 12v rail, 2x 22A and 2x 24A
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I think one of my issues is my PSu as well.

OCZ700MSXP doesnt list, but the Sticker says 12v1 25A, 12v2 25A,

So Im assuming it's a split rail, and 25A is not really enough to feed my GPU Overclocked (I'll rectify this next weekend with qa quality PSU (1000W with 1 single 75A Rail)

LOL @ this new PSU "lime light",

25A is 300 watts of available power. A 7950 would have to flat out Short to ground to pull more 300 watts.

Your system at full load should only pull ~ 500watts @ OC MAX.

That power supply "SHOULD" be plenty. Unless its faulty (aged caps will slip a otherwise good PSU into it's end of life low wattage life cycle) or your flat pulling all of your system power from one rail. (Which is normally impossible to do as the 24pin and 8pin that power the CPU and system are built on separate rails than the PCIe power, purposely)

Now a 8350 should not be capable of pulling more than 220watts itself @ air / water overclocks. And if we are going off of a "worst case scenario here, the rest of a "typical" system will pull around 150w.

So when it comes to power, this is what you want at Minimum on your PSU rails for a "worst case scenario" OC system:

12v1 (system CPU rail): Cpu - 220w + system 150w = 370w / 12v = 38.3A

12v2 (PCIe video cards): Video card absolute max: 300w / card = 25A (a GTX 690 can consume ~270w, so this gives you 30w OC headroom)

So your looking at ~60 - 65 amps or 720 - 780 watts for the beginings of a High end OC capable PSU.

So Your going to want to START looking in the 750watt PSU area and UP. Now, not all power supplies can supply full rail max current draw simultaneously. This would then mean you would need MORE wattage available per rail to compensate.

I personally hate separate rail config PSUs and would rather have ONE high amperage rail.

And as such I can suggest a PSU such as THIS unit which has one 62amp 12v circuit that would be a great start for anyone wanting to cross the roads of OC and High end video card fun.

Keep it in mind... and GL thumb.gif
Edited by MadGoat - 2/10/13 at 1:43pm
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25A is 300 watts of available power. A 7950 would have to flat out Short to ground to pull more 300 watts.

Your system at full load should only pull ~ 500watts @ OC MAX.

That power supply "SHOULD" be plenty. Unless its faulty (aged caps will slip a otherwise good PSU into it's end of life low wattage life cycle) or your flat pulling all of your system power from one rail. (Which is normally impossible to do as the 24pin and 8pin that power the CPU and system are built on separate rails than the PCIe power, purposely)

It randomly shut off last night,

I had to switch the PSU Switch off and then back on to get the power Button to respond, and then it cut off again.

repeated PSU switch off then on and checked AC Cable, then APC/UPS stats, powered on and it's been good for the day so far,
Might need to clean the case,

but Temps and Voltages during stress testing were good.

I just dont feel comfortable with a split rail with 25Amps x2, I'd rather have a single rail.

When I go XFire I'll have to upgrade anyway.
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It randomly shut off last night,

I had to switch the PSU Switch off and then back on to get the power Button to respond, and then it cut off again.

repeated PSU switch off then on and checked AC Cable, then APC/UPS stats, powered on and it's been good for the day so far,
Might need to clean the case,

but Temps and Voltages during stress testing were good.

I just dont feel comfortable with a split rail with 25Amps x2, I'd rather have a single rail.

When I go XFire I'll have to upgrade anyway.

I only play the devil's advocate only to help people from jumping to "throwing money" at a problem...

In your situation however, I couldn't agree more. Your also keeping in mind future additions which makes it, that much, a smarter buy.

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Just gtot win8 installed on my new rig this is what i(aka my dad) went with:,we got a small discount too hence the crapy mobo.

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Found a tip @ XS: disable HPET (it's in PC Health for Gigabyte UDx on BIOS). I got a little CB11.5 gain. Anyone else can confirm? XS tried it with Bloomfield but it seemed to help for me.
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Hi there. I'm a brand-new FX owner as of today! Just came home from Micro Center with an FX-8320 and ASUS M5A97 R2.0. I'm upgrading from an Intel i5-760; I was planning for Haswell to be my next upgrade, but my motherboard has been going flaky of late, and I decided that going with Ivy Bridge just wasn't worth the extra $$ to me.

I plan to rebuild my system as specified in my sig rig probably tomorrow night, and I am looking for some advice on OCing before I get started. I'm no stranger to OC'ing, but my last AMD build was an Athlon 64! I'm NOT looking for max OC but for a long-term sustainable 24/7, as I'm planning on keeping this setup mostly as-is for the next 3+ years.

I've been lurking on this thread for a while... My plan is to keep Turbo Core enabled and shoot for 4.3ghz / 4.8 ghz turbo. It seems that not too many people are leaving turbo enabled, so I'm curious how doable that sounds to everyone? Alternatively, anything 4.6ghz or better without turbo would be okay with me.

I'm very interested in maximizing memory bandwidth, and yes I know FX isn't the best for this. But I'm hoping for 2133ghz+ on 4 x 4gb of the Samsung 30nm RAM that I have. Any tips on what I should be doing with the FSB, NB and such to maximize memory performance?

Thanks all for your help!
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I don't take that comment lightly Os. It has really hit us hard here with three school age kids. We have found that it either has a boomerang effect or you can re-aquire it. My wife has been on the worst of it and has gotten dehydrated to the point of bringing here in for two IV's so far. This is really a nasty virus.

Sorry to hear about the extent of the infection in your family . Wish you well. Disinfect Everything, I mean EVERYTHING.
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