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Originally Posted by SkateZilla View Post

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-crosshair-v-formula-z-amd-990fx-s-am3plus-ddr3-sata-iii-6gb-s-sata-raid-pcie-20-%28x16%29-atx

That's the one you want.

They clearly say:
Extreme Engine Digi+ II -- Powerful combination of analog and digital design elements

and
Extreme Engine Digi+: A Powerful combination of analog and digital Phase Power design elements

on the specs.

The Box Clearly has a -Z on the Better one in the Product Image.

cool did not notice that thank you
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just went to order my board and noticed 2 different chvf z boards


http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-crosshair-v-formula-z-amd-990fx-s-am3plus-ddr3-sata-iii-6gb-s-sata-raid-pcie-20-%28x16%29-atx

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-crosshair-v-formula-amd-990fx-s-am3plus-ddr3-sata-iii-6gb-s-raid-sata-pcie-20-%28x16%29-atx


so why 2 different boards the only thing i can tell different is ram speeds
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ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z AM3+ Motherboard Review
HARDOCP

The Crosshair V Formula-Z is based on the AMD 990FX chipset and uses the AMD SB950 south bridge. It is the fifth board to use the name "Crosshair Formula" and represents the latest in motherboard design. What's interesting about this board is that it is actually an update to the existing Crosshair V Formula. The "Z" version has some differences compared to the earlier model. While I have no personal experience with the original version I have done some checking into some of the differences. The original board used an 8+2 power phase solution and the Formula-Z uses an 8+2+2 setup. Essentially this is the DIGI+ Engine II feature that ASUS refers to in the marketing literature that we are talking about. Basically it's the same type of digital control over the memory power phases that we are used to seeing available for the CPU. So you can run one or more phases, adjust the power response frequency, thermal protection, and load-line calibration for the RAM just as you do for the CPU.

The Formula-Z also relocates the onboard power and reset buttons from the board's bottom edge to the lower right hand corner where the memory slots are. The south bridge cooling has been slightly altered as well with an updated heat sink design. There are some components which have been rearranged on the PCB. The audio solution was updated to the "Supreme FX III" vs. the FX II used in the previous model. SATA ports have been shuffled around as well with all of this model's being right angled and in the same place. The number has increased from 7 ports to 8. The legacy PCI slot has also been removed from the new model.
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on scans.co.uk site they are both formula z's
did you check the links?

only difference i can see is rog connect button on back and ddr3 2400+

Sorry, I didn't actually click the links. I just saw one link said Crosshair V Forumla and the other said Crosshair V Formula-Z
In other news, I was wondering if anyone would like to test this OC method: (as my Piledriver Rig is sold)

I'll post a couple pics to explain the reasoning.




The block, that's just to the left of the DDR3 is the IMC. See how far the other two cores are away, compared to the ones that are right next to the IMC.

I suspect that on the CPU that I had, the Cores that were of the highest performance were the ones directly next to the IMC.

So I wonder if you are able to get higher Overclock potential with lower heat, if you run with reduced NB speeds and reduced DRAM speeds.

I'd recommend running the NB 1600Mhz and DRAM 1600Mhz and then seeing how low you can run the CPU/NB Voltage.

What we could expect to see is less heat and resistance generated by the IMC and those lengthy pathways to the other Cores, to hopefully reach higher CPU Overclocks with less voltage and heat.

If that method works, then it's just a matter of figuring out if that low of Frequency for the IMC will bottleneck CPU performance and where to find a balance.
As well, installing the Windows 7 Hotfix's for Bulldozer, stopped some issues I was troubleshooting for an FX 8350 running some Steam Games. (COD: Black OPs and some others)
The issues included:
-freezing between maps
-complete system shutdown

Maybe the link to those on the Microsoft Website would make a good addition to the Main Page.
Edited by ComputerRestore - 2/14/13 at 9:53am
post #8564 of 67492
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G'day Sport

Shame ya couldnt score a decent cooler instead of that crappy evo tongue.gif

wheee.gif[/quote

How are you getting freebie cpus and gpus???
post #8565 of 67492
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G'day Sport

Shame ya couldnt score a decent cooler instead of that crappy evo tongue.gif

wheee.gif

Nah the Evo does alright, Keeps my CPU under 45 degrees which im happy with (only cost 35$) looking to watercool soon anyways.
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G'day Sport

Shame ya couldnt score a decent cooler instead of that crappy evo tongue.gif

wheee.gif[/quote

How are you getting freebie cpus and gpus???

perks of the job. biggrin.gif
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Sorry, I didn't actually click the links. I just saw one link said Crosshair V Forumla and the other said Crosshair V Formula-Z
In other news, I was wondering if anyone would like to test this OC method: (as my Piledriver Rig is sold)

I'll post a couple pics to explain the reasoning.




The block, that's just to the left of the DDR3 is the IMC. See how far the other two cores are away, compared to the ones that are right next to the IMC.

I suspect that on the CPU that I had, the Cores that were of the highest performance were the ones directly next to the IMC.

So I wonder if you are able to get higher Overclock potential with lower heat, if you run with reduced NB speeds and reduced DRAM speeds.

I'd recommend running the NB 1600Mhz and DRAM 1600Mhz and then seeing how low you can run the CPU/NB Voltage.

What we could expect to see is less heat and resistance generated by the IMC and those lengthy pathways to the other Cores, to hopefully reach higher CPU Overclocks with less voltage and heat.

If that method works, then it's just a matter of figuring out if that low of Frequency for the IMC will bottleneck CPU performance and where to find a balance.
As well, installing the Windows 7 Hotfix's for Bulldozer, stopped some issues I was troubleshooting for an FX 8350 running some Steam Games. (COD: Black OPs and some others)
The issues included:
-freezing between maps
-complete system shutdown

Maybe the link to those on the Microsoft Website would make a good addition to the Main Page.

Sounds like its worth a shot, when I get home tonight I will do a little playing around. I noticed last night that if I bumped my NB voltage from1.225 to 1.25 I became unstable no matter what I did.
 
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shouldnt something used by all modules kinda be in the center?, roflmao.
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Hello,

Is anyone here using an aftermarket CPU fan / heatsink with the fx-8350? Which thermal compound and application method were used, and what temperatures are you seeing?

I ask because i've been researching this chip and thermal paste like mad. The cores being along the four corners of the chip seems to render the dot / pea method insufficient. The "X method" i was told would not create a flush interface between sink and cpu.

I have talked to AMD twice, and Arctic Silver twice, and Cooler Master once over the phone regarding the application of compound for this chip, and have heard different suggestions from each, some even suggesting the spread method, which i've heard to avoid from other sources.

I've also heard you don't want to go over 60c temperature, AMD's literature seems to suggest this (61c) for some FX-series chips, and then hear from someone at AMD that 70+c is nothing to be concerned about.

I've just been hearing so much conflicting, if not contradictory information, and would really appreciate the help of some who have actually done the testing.

TL;DR : What aftermarket cooler are your using, which thermal compound and compound application did you use, and what are your idle / load temperatures?

Cheers smile.gif...
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Hello,

Is anyone here using an aftermarket CPU fan / heatsink with the fx-8350? Which thermal compound and application method were used, and what temperatures are you seeing?

I ask because i've been researching this chip and thermal paste like mad. The cores being along the four corners of the chip seems to render the dot / pea method insufficient. The "X method" i was told would not create a flush interface between sink and cpu.

I have talked to AMD twice, and Arctic Silver twice, and Cooler Master once over the phone regarding the application of compound for this chip, and have heard different suggestions from each, some even suggesting the spread method, which i've heard to avoid from other sources.

I've also heard you don't want to go over 60c temperature, AMD's literature seems to suggest this (61c) for some FX-series chips, and then hear from someone at AMD that 70+c is nothing to be concerned about.

I've just been hearing so much conflicting, if not contradictory information, and would really appreciate the help of some who have actually done the testing.

TL;DR : What aftermarket cooler are your using, which thermal compound and compound application did you use, and what are your idle / load temperatures?

Cheers smile.gif...

I am using Raystorm RS360 with GPU in the loop. I used Prolimatech Pk-01 and it seems to be very good. I only used a dot in the center. However I did do the x pattern on the GPU and it is icy cold. Like, it doesn't break 40c even at 1.25v and 1267/1450.

This cooler falls apart at 1.65v running IBT. That is well beyond recommended safe voltages so it's irrelevant I suppose.

Also, maximum temp is 70c and it degrades at 90c. AMD is just saying 62c to leave safe room. It is generally considered that you run 62c if you want to be safe and 70c if you want to live on the edge. 1.55v is maximum recommended vcore but i've gone beyond that for 24/7 and a few others have as well without any ill effects (yet).
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a4 5000 Radeon HD 8330 8GB G. Skill DDR3 1600 9-9-9 Gentoo Linux 
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Windows 7 Lenovo Thinkpad x140e 
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