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thank you i didn't know where else to backup my claim and im just too lazy to download programs that would show it realtime.. what i am amazed about is that i can play this game one almost highest settings minus midranged AA.. but thats cause im GPU limited. . hence why im curious about intel top end rig comparing to the 8350..
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thank you i didn't know where else to backup my claim and im just too lazy to download programs that would show it realtime.. what i am amazed about is that i can play this game one almost highest settings minus midranged AA.. but thats cause im GPU limited. . hence why im curious about intel top end rig comparing to the 8350..

No problem. Information about anything using 4+ cores seems to get mysteriously buried.
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thank you i didn't know where else to backup my claim and im just too lazy to download programs that would show it realtime.. what i am amazed about is that i can play this game one almost highest settings minus midranged AA.. but thats cause im GPU limited. . hence why im curious about intel top end rig comparing to the 8350..

No problem. Information about anything using 4+ cores seems to get mysteriously buried.


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Looks like AMD is the best overall cpu when you consider pricing. Proves you don't need a 300+ cpu for games. So if some one wants to build a killer crysis rig you tell them amd.
Edited by pwnzilla61 - 2/19/13 at 9:21pm
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Price ≠ Total cost of ownership. Once you factor in the additional costs of a beefier heatsink and additional case fans to counteract the excess heat generated (vs. the i5-3570K), the higher-capacity PSU required to power such an inefficient CPU, and the raw cost of electricity involved to run the system in the first place, I don't see these so-called "savings" you speak of.

Thermaltake Hangburg 530watt 80plus (45$) is capable to handle any system with 8350 + 7870/7950 gpu !!!

Thermaltake BERLIN 630Watt 80plus (53$) is capable to handle any systme with 8350 + 7970 ???

Where is the bigger cost for psu ?

All pc cases with cost up to 35$ have 2X 120mm Fans !!

I5 3570 has much lower overall processing power than FX 8350/8320 !! Τhe only thing that makes it appealing is good single thread performance !!

3570k @ oveclocked - 4,2Ghz



8350 @ default = 4Ghz/ 4,2 Turbo



8350 = 32nm & 3570κ = 22nm !!!

compared with Ι5 3470 (LOCKED) in the same price , 8350 can work with default heatsink and default vcore in following numbers:

8350 @ 4,3Ghz




compared with Ι5 3330 in the same price , 8320 can work with default heatsink in same numbers !!!

[B]VFM [/B]
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Price ≠ Total cost of ownership. Once you factor in the additional costs of a beefier heatsink and additional case fans to counteract the excess heat generated (vs. the i5-3570K), the higher-capacity PSU required to power such an inefficient CPU, and the raw cost of electricity involved to run the much higher-wattage system in the first place, I don't see these so-called "savings" you speak of.



You don't need a beefier heat sink for one, additional case fans, what are you smoking? You don't need a bigger psu,(most people purchase a sufficient psu, even if they don't need it.) smoking some trash some more. In my living area, it would cost maybe 10$ over the whole year "maybe". And adding to the fact you are coming into an owners thread, of a product you do not own. A fx-6300 can be had for as little as 129 even cheaper in some places. I hope you are just trolling, could be mad that fx chips have been doing good in benchmarks and games lately so you seem a little on edge.
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my FX-8320 came in today.

Getting better results in most of my games by disabling one module per core (or am I saying that backwards?). Running stock voltage (1.37v idle / 1.33v load) and at 4.0Ghz. Haven't tried higher yet and just turned off TC and left the rest at the motherboard defaults. IIRC my HT link and NB isn't set right.



Question: what's the power consumption difference between a FX-8320 at 8 cores and a FX-8320 with one module per core (making it a "true" quad core) disabled? Any difference or no?
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my FX-8320 came in today.

Getting better results in most of my games by disabling one module per core (or am I saying that backwards?). Running stock voltage (1.37v idle / 1.33v load) and at 4.0Ghz. Haven't tried higher yet and just turned off TC and left the rest at the motherboard defaults. IIRC my HT link and NB isn't set right.



Question: what's the power consumption difference between a FX-8320 at 8 cores and a FX-8320 with one module per core (making it a "true" quad core) disabled? Any difference or no?

No difference because L2+L3 Cache is the same !!!
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Price ≠ Total cost of ownership. Once you factor in the additional costs of a beefier heatsink and additional case fans to counteract the excess heat generated (vs. the i5-3570K), the higher-capacity PSU required to power such an inefficient CPU, and the raw cost of electricity involved to run the much higher-wattage system in the first place, I don't see these so-called "savings" you speak of.

Maybe if you live in the high Arctic and have it pull double-duty as a space heater perhaps, but otherwise...

I don't see a piledriver in your signature. I reported you but the mods don't seem to want to do anything.

The main reasons why I went AMD over Intel this round are:

1. Intel fanboys who think they are cool because they bought a cheap heat sink and overclocked by simply raising the multiplier.

2. This superiority complex that seems to be getting worse with the Intel crowd. You raised your CPU multiplier, good job! That takes a lot of skill!

3. I need multi-thread performance more than single and the difference in cost wasn't worth it.

4. This is what overclocking is like on LGA1155 http://gettingsmart.com/cms/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/training-wheels.jpeg

You obviously haven't been around for a very long time if you think that it's rare for a chip to *gasp* need better cooling for better overclocks. But it's nice to see someone with an H100i complaining about having to spend more money on CPU cooling.
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Ok, got a question -

My 8350 is underwater now with an Antec Kuhler 920, and with the right fan control settings, I can push it up to 4.7 GHz, and so far it's P95 stable (it's only been running for about 20 minutes though). Core temps are maxing out at 63c, although they only reached that high for a couple seconds while the fans on the cooler were ramping up - they are pretty much staying right on 60 - 61c under full load. Socket temp seems a little high at 76c, but from what I've heard that seems to be generally considered acceptable (?).

Now, my question is, because I have LLC set to extreme and needed to set the vcore up to 1.488v to get IBT to run stable, my voltages are maxing out at 1.548v with vdroop. That seems a little high to me for a 4.7 GHz overclock, considering the max voltage AMD says is safe is 1.55v. That's what it took to get it stable though. My CPU/NB is set to 1.18v with LLC extreme on that as well. Is the voltage peaking out too high? Did I get a bad chip, or is this normal? Maybe my CPU/NB voltage is too low?

If you have any tips on how I can lower these voltages and keep it stable, that would be much appreciated!
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