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I jumped from an 1100T to the 8350.. simply put you WILL noticed the difference in every single thing you do.. especially if you game there is no LAG time waiting for the processor to catch up

Good to know, thank you
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That's awesome Red, glad to see you representing us so well.

As for Crysis 3 core scaling, I have a very, very good feeling that this is Crytek getting CryEngine ready for console ports on 8 core jaguar CPUs. By this time next year I wouldn't be surprised if results like the Crysis 3 benchmark posted here became the norm.

Every time I mention something like this some Intel guy shoots me down and says, "you can't make games more than 2 threads!" when most games already use 3. They can't wrap their minds around the fact that game devs place consoles first, and if you have a console with 3 cores, there's no point in breaking thread logic up into more than 3 main threads. If there's 8 weak cores, game devs are going to be forced to use 8 main threads for their games whether they want to or not.

either way it's going to be good for selling AMD CPUs. I predict "intel isn't good enough it only has half the cores of PS4" to become a standard talking point for most people. I think of all the times Intel fanboys come in here and crap all over this thread. I can't wait until games start using 8 cores and we can start crapping on their threads.

Na, don't be like that. I'm glad and all that Crysis 3 can use our chips, and I'll be sure to poke a few people I know with that fact, but it doesn't feel good to be put down in threads. It'll be good enough that we can recommend AMD CPUs to people with build help threads and the other side will have to accept that it's the logical way to go. It was only a matter of time before they started using so many threads, only the blind didn't see it, especially with consoles going that route.

In other news, I recently helped someone pick out a 6300 because their budget constraints meant they would get either that or an i3. The Crysis3 graphs will go a long way in making him feel good about his purchase since it's sure to be the "next big game".
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http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5978392 Check it out guys almost 8k physics with a 4.6ghz 8320 (sadly a 1.4v stock) and my solo 7870 HAWK going strong haha.
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Good to know, thank you

You're welcome
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Na, don't be like that. I'm glad and all that Crysis 3 can use our chips, and I'll be sure to poke a few people I know with that fact, but it doesn't feel good to be put down in threads. It'll be good enough that we can recommend AMD CPUs to people with build help threads and the other side will have to accept that it's the logical way to go. It was only a matter of time before they started using so many threads, only the blind didn't see it, especially with consoles going that route.

In other news, I recently helped someone pick out a 6300 because their budget constraints meant they would get either that or an i3. The Crysis3 graphs will go a long way in making him feel good about his purchase since it's sure to be the "next big game".

Well put.. Why stoop to fan boisms.. Everyone here hates the intel fanbois so there is no poiny in just furthering the bicking.. In addition it seems that amd has been thinking logically and i really think that the next line of chips will be a per case scenario pf which and were each side fits.. As much is starting to happen older games and engines intel all the way, newer engines encode multitasking amd all the way..

Another thing is console to pc ports are going to be significantly better thanks to amd. I just realized the 83xx will be the best premis to compare direct ports on.. 8 cores and many run descrete gpus.. Oooo im getting excited.. Coding is going to be sooo much more optimized
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Score one for the good guys biggrin.gif (thats us guys...the Visherians, hehe)

Very impressive! Quad GPU was only way to get this chip up there in the tops. Nice to see at least one of us in that brutally one sided list... Oh AMD..gone are the days..and only to get worse...and the divide to get greater...but at least still PLENTY adequate
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Can u guys take a look at my screenshot of my HWInfo64 and CPUID Hardware Monitor temps and help me to differentiate between the *ACTUAL* cpu/socket/mobo/vrm, etc? This is on my new Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 board and I'm getting a bit confused.

As I had mentioned in earlier posts I just previously had this FX-8350 CPU on a Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 board and had temps (at load) at 4.8Ghz and 1.5v, and was easily under 52 degrees all the time ..was rather suprised yet obviously quite pleased with this...but this new board (seems to) hit 60 no prob and this is only at 4.5GHz with 1.38v!.. but now I'm thinking it might be just my *interpretation* of the HWinfo/Monitor apps and the categories I'm reading..
I have both HWinfo64 and CPU ID HWMonitor open and they apparently separate them (the various chip and onboard temps) differently; as the ONE CPU temp on the monitor reads around 48 degrees under load which make more sense and what I got on my last board...

In the CPUID Hardware Monitor there are CPU and Mainboard temps toward the top and THAT CPU temp will go to 45-50 degrees very quickly and then up by a degree every 10-15 seconds, up to about 61 degrees.. The Mainboard stays mid 20's no prob. This is under full stress testing load (and basically from stock clock to an average oc of only 4.5Ghz) But the PACKAGE temps under the AMD FX 8350 category show only 46 degrees and is right where it should be. On my previous Gigabyte board that was my CPU temp and also matched the CPU temp in the upper category... from what I understood and what was usually the case in the past, "package" temps are the typically the ones to watch and is the actual cpu, no?...but this is confusing...

As well when I stop the stress testing, in the past and typically ALL cases, the CPU temp (should and) would drop IMMEDIATELY down to the 30's and very quickly back to low idle temps.. The package temps here do just that but the "CPU temps" drop only to 50 or 45 and then take a long time to get back to the 20's.
This is what is making me think the "Package" temps are my actual cpu thermals and are right where I was expecting them to be all along..but I just can't be sure with all of these contradictions. Maybe that's just the "socket" in this case and what is quickly reducing in heat after load?...I just don't know

On the other side is HWINFO64. I like this app and started using this more often lately as it is a lot more detailed and was recommended by many here.
This one has a separate CPU0 AMD FX-8350 category and that one also shows 46.5 degrees and is where I expect this to be.
It also seems to have a separate motherboard section with a lot of temps and then the onboard sensors category.

Under "Asus Ec" (the separate mobo category I assume) there is a VCore-1 that shows 57 which matches the other HWMonitor temp of "CPU". Are all the indicators in this mobo section all the various temps ON the motherboard itself for the individual compenents? Maybe the temps of the vrm's and such?
Then next there is the ITE8621F category which I know is the sensors controller; has CPU and Mainboard temp too..this one shows 57 degrees under "CPU" also... So I'm very confused by all this..
On EVERY OTHER setup I've ever done, it's been MUCH more cut and dry and even with various cpu/package/vcore categories in these monitors I was able to (fairly easily) differentiate between all of them and know what is what!

Can u look at this and tell me which one is the ACTUAL CPU temp (the one I always prefer to keep under 55 and had no issues doing so on GA board) and which is the socket temp and so on....?
Thanks

BTW this is all currently at 4.5Ghz with a Corsair H100 water cooler (which was apparently MORE then enough to keep nice and cool on THREE previous Gigabyte boards running as high as 5.1Ghz and up to 1.565v) and running prime95.


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Can u guys take a look at my screenshot of my HWInfo64 and CPUID hardware Monitor temps and help me to differentiate between the actual cpu and socket, etc? This is on my new Sabertooth board and I'm getting a bit confused.

"Package Temp" In HWMonitor is CPU Core temp.
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Hmm...mmm...Corsair H80i in my CM 690 II Advanced sounds acceptable, but it cools better than I expected...on par with my previous attempt in view of Thermaltake Water 2 Extreme which was way too noisy...and way more hassle installing it!
So far so good...
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For IBT avx what is the Gflops average between 4.8ghz to 5ghz. I've been using this to fine tune the voltage and noticed too much voltage has the same effect as too little and raising the NB voltage raised the Gflops as well. So what's the norm for high and very high.
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