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So, do you guys say I should get a 970A UD3? Board has to be around max. €120 in holland. Cheaper = better, the less money I spend the better. So I'm NOT looking for the ''best'' board of this list, but for the best vlaue for money board that'll get me FX8320 to at least 4.8Ghz IF the chip is capable of it.
For that money I can choose between the following boards that I know have enough phases:

Gigabyte:
GA-970A-UD3 (€73)
GA-990XA-UD3 (€89)
GA-990FXA-UD3 (€114)

ASUS:
M5A97 EVO R2.0 (€95)
M5A99X EVO (R2.0) (€115)

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None.

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990XA-GD55 (€95)
990FXA-GD65 (€102)

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Originally Posted by itomic View Post

Best value for sure is UD-3, becouse its cheapest and its good. FXA- UD-3 has sence only if u plan to bilf CF or SLI system. Otherwise not at all.

i agree is itomic
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Originally Posted by Imprezzion View Post

So, do you guys say I should get a 970A UD3? Board has to be around max. €120 in holland. Cheaper = better, the less money I spend the better. So I'm NOT looking for the ''best'' board of this list, but for the best vlaue for money board that'll get me FX8320 to at least 4.8Ghz IF the chip is capable of it.
For that money I can choose between the following boards that I know have enough phases:

Gigabyte:
GA-970A-UD3 (€73)
GA-990XA-UD3 (€89)
GA-990FXA-UD3 (€114)

ASUS:
M5A97 EVO R2.0 (€95)
M5A99X EVO (R2.0) (€115)

AsRock:
None.

MSI:
990XA-GD55 (€95)
990FXA-GD65 (€102)

Biostar:
TA990FXE (€106)

The 970a-UD3, being both the cheapest and best quality 970 wins out based on that list. You would have to go 990FX to find something better.

4.8 depends on cooling, it really does. Something like a 212 Evo will not pass 4.6. You're looking at a NH-D14, H80, or Antec 920 level cooler to hit 4.8.
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U are wrong, price isnt everything. Theres a big difference pricewise between M5A97 EVO R2.0 and M5A99FX PRO R2.0, BUT they will overclock pretty much the same ( becouse they have same VRM-s and minimalistic difference in VRM Heatsink ). Also 990FXA UD-3 and mine hase pretty much same OC potential regadles those minor LLC differences.

When (and if) you can match my overclock, we'll talk. Keep in mind I bench at 5.2Ghz, and have passed WPrime 1024m at that freq. Those LLC settings you mock make a huge difference at times.

Price range matters.
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+1 to KyadCk, not a lot of moderators using AMD btw
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I'm running a golden 670 now and there's no second to find for this card so I don't plan on SLI anytime soon. Not going to find a card that can get even close to this ones corespeed.

I'll get the 970A UD3 cause Extreme LLC is good enough for me biggrin.gif
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I'm running a golden 670 now and there's no second to find for this card so I don't plan on SLI anytime soon. Not going to find a card that can get even close to this ones corespeed.

I'll get the 970A UD3 cause Extreme LLC is good enough for me biggrin.gif

Extreme LLC isnt that great on my ASUS board. If I enable it, even if Im running stock clocks and voltages, as soon as I run any stress test (P95, OCCT, etc) it freezes and I have to reboot. Not sure if you will get the same results but just my experience.
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I'm running a golden 670 now and there's no second to find for this card so I don't plan on SLI anytime soon. Not going to find a card that can get even close to this ones corespeed.

I'll get the 970A UD3 cause Extreme LLC is good enough for me biggrin.gif

Extreme LLC isnt that great on my ASUS board. If I enable it, even if Im running stock clocks and voltages, as soon as I run any stress test (P95, OCCT, etc) it freezes and I have to reboot. Not sure if you will get the same results but just my experience.

Gigabyte board, LLC works differently. Extreme on Giga just throws more volts at the CPU, it works fine.
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The 970a-UD3, being both the cheapest and best quality 970 wins out based on that list. You would have to go 990FX to find something better.

4.8 depends on cooling, it really does. Something like a 212 Evo will not pass 4.6. You're looking at a NH-D14, H80, or Antec 920 level cooler to hit 4.8.
When (and if) you can match my overclock, we'll talk. Keep in mind I bench at 5.2Ghz, and have passed WPrime 1024m at that freq. Those LLC settings you mock make a huge difference at times.

Price range matters.

Well, if i cant get it to 5.2Ghz with my board, that does not prove that your board is better !! I could get worse batch than yours chip, not every combination of MBO +CPU reacts the same for overclocking. My friend has UD-3 and FX 8320. He can bench at 5.0Ghz and boot at 5.5Ghz, but he does not have cooler for such high clocks. If he had cooler like mine, im sure he clud bench at 5.2Ghz too. Only difference between 990FXA UD-3 and 970 UD-3 are PCI-E lanes. LLC u talk about does not have that much of a impact becouse VRM-s r the same and HS is the same. If one does not plan to have twocards in CF or SLi then purchasing 990FXA UD-3 over 970 UD-3 is waste of moeny. 990FXA UD-5 is next better board u can buy after 970 UD-3 in Gigabyte line-up or Sabertooth if u want realy good board for overclocking.
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The 970a-UD3, being both the cheapest and best quality 970 wins out based on that list. You would have to go 990FX to find something better.

4.8 depends on cooling, it really does. Something like a 212 Evo will not pass 4.6. You're looking at a NH-D14, H80, or Antec 920 level cooler to hit 4.8.
When (and if) you can match my overclock, we'll talk. Keep in mind I bench at 5.2Ghz, and have passed WPrime 1024m at that freq. Those LLC settings you mock make a huge difference at times.

Price range matters.

Well, if i cant get it to 5.2Ghz with my board, that does not prove that your board is better !! I could get worse batch than yours chip, not every combination of MBO +CPU reacts the same for overclocking. My friend has UD-3 and FX 8320. He can bench at 5.0Ghz and boot at 5.5Ghz, but he does not have cooler for such high clocks. If he had cooler like mine, im sure he clud bench at 5.2Ghz too. Only difference between 990FXA UD-3 and 970 UD-3 are PCI-E lanes. LLC u talk about does not have that much of a impact becouse VRM-s r the same and HS is the same. If one does not plan to have twocards in CF or SLi then purchasing 990FXA UD-3 over 970 UD-3 is waste of moeny. 990FXA UD-5 is next better board u can buy after 970 UD-3 in Gigabyte line-up or Sabertooth if u want realy good board for overclocking.


Riiight, so I'll explain this one the long way.

LLC as it works with gigabyte:
Regular: allow some vdroop
Medium: Allow vdroop or keep voltage steady
High: keep voltage steady or add a little voltage
Very high: add voltage
Extreme: Add lots of voltage.

Now, knowing this, you need to know 2 things about your CPU.

1: What is the minimum voltage required to stay stable for light usage and idle.
2: What is the minimum voltage required to stay stable under load.

In my case, my minimum voltage idle is 1.5v
Load voltage required is about 1.536v.

In my case, High is the correct LLC setting. If I had it set to Extreme, voltage would be far too high for my OC, and temps would skyrocket. If I had it on regular, my load voltage would be not enough, and I would crash.

Getting the idea?

Also, NH-D14 can not push past 4.8 24/7 stable due to thermal limitations with FX-8 chips. They just don't cool well enough with stock fans. You need an H100 at minimum at that point. The voltage required to get 5.2 bench stable out of an FX-8 chip would kick you to the thermal shutdown before you got 5 seconds in unless you went out in the cold.
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Riiight, so I'll explain this one the long way...

Also, NH-D14 can not push past 4.8 24/7 stable due to thermal limitations with FX-8 chips. They just don't cool well enough with stock fans. You need an H100 at minimum at that point. The voltage required to get 5.2 bench stable out of an FX-8 chip would kick you to the thermal shutdown before you got 5 seconds in unless you went out in the cold.

Aint this the truth. You are spot on with the 4.8ghz is max with nh d14

I had one and 4.8ghz was max i could go to 100% full load.
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Hm, look at my pics and then say that NH-D14 cant push at say 5.0Ghz. And i need to add that vents was on LOW at this Cinebench run. If they where at normal or max speed at 1300rpm, temps wolud be about 4 to 5C lower. Not every chip is the same thermalwise.


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