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Ok, so here is a question. If "package temp" is the important one, and core temp really doesn't mean squat, how can I get my fans to operate off of the package temp rather than core temp? Right now my fans ramp up when the core temp hits around 55*C, but the package will still be around 38-40*. I'm so confused, why can't AMD just have a freaking sensor that works. Using the Asus software that comes with the board it will only sense CPU temp.

Here is where I'm at now, working my way back up. I remounted my block for a second time as my package temps were hitting 60*C within about 5 minutes of stress testing again. My CPU is really bad frown.gif Also, good lord I hate having to uncheck "import images" each time.

temp-2.jpg

Package temp and core temp are identical. The socket temp which is sometimes called cpu temp is the higher value and not as important as package/core temp. Got it???
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Ok, so here is a question. If "package temp" is the important one, and core temp really doesn't mean squat, how can I get my fans to operate off of the package temp rather than core temp? Right now my fans ramp up when the core temp hits around 55*C, but the package will still be around 38-40*. I'm so confused, why can't AMD just have a freaking sensor that works. Using the Asus software that comes with the board it will only sense CPU temp.

Here is where I'm at now, working my way back up. I remounted my block for a second time as my package temps were hitting 60*C within about 5 minutes of stress testing again. My CPU is really bad frown.gif Also, good lord I hate having to uncheck "import images" each time.

temp-2.jpg

Package temp and core temp are identical. The socket temp which is sometimes called cpu temp is the higher value and not as important as package/core temp. Got it???
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Originally Posted by Imprezzion View Post

Bah, I have some serious throttling on my VRM's as well during IBT... 2 rounds it passes without throttling on ~1.536v... Got no active cooling on them at all with my H100i so I quickly put a 140mm 1500RPM fan in front of em to see what that does tongue.gif

Oh and the wrong temp reading, well I was using HWMonitor 1.21 but I downloaded AIDA64 now since that's usually a bit more accurate and might give me VRM temp readings as well.


EDIT: I don't think the 970A UD3 is up to the task I want it to do unless this extra cooling keeps him ''alive''.

I've decided to return the board if it can't hold up to these OC's and go look for something that CAN.

So, what board can actually handle ~1.55v without throttling and with proper stable LLC for as little money as possible? (Meaning I don't need a CHVE or something like that...)

As stated earlier today..i have the exact same board and am able to oc up to 5Ghz fairly easily.. the THROTTLING issue was a total piss-off for the the first week I had the board though! So if you have Rev3 and latest Bios.. turn off all the power saving (CE1, C6, C&Q, etc)..there's no APM to turn off..but then turn ON the HPC.. with that I was FINALLY able to do WHATEVER I wanted with the board in terms of voltages, clocks, etc WITHOUT any THROTTLING! That *should* work.. i eventually went back down from EXTREME LLC to Ultra or High... and had to play around with the voltages but with a water cooler as low as a Corsair H60 (also used the H100) I was able to do 4.8Ghz at 48 degress and 5Ghz and keeping under 54 degrees (averaged 49-52)! I was surprised but the board handled very well.

Maybe your specific board is problematic but i do KNOW the UD3 can handle almost anything you put it through..it just doesn't have all the extra oc and vrm power features like the Asus (Sabertooth, I now have and has been recommended to you).. it has that quirky throttling issue (but is easily overcome..at least for me and a few others who posted).. all the UD3/5/7 are notorious for VDroop..and I did experience it..but nothing too heavy.. LLC can go a bit high on voltages but can be worked with and sometimes the voltages can be a bit up and down at times...but with proper tweaking, the board can handle high clocks/voltages and be stable with good temps..

ps. but if you feel you must return and/or replace or upgrade..to say.. a Sabertooth, I can't argue with you there! it IS a better board through and through and more importantly is made of better material, has more features and a lot more BIOS controls and options for oc'ing and vrm digi+ power controls! it is sweet!
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Hey Gertruude.. i remember your posting just a week or so ago about your settings for 4.8Ghz and 5Ghz on your Sabertooth board with your 8350 chip.. and I remember you 5Ghz level have to go a bit high at 1.56x volts...but you just reposted recently about now doing it at 1.53v. Very nice and keeping well within the preferred 1.55v max.. i saw the 3 screen shots.. I assume you just made the change recently.. is it still working well for you and aside from the main page settings you posted what else (if anything) did you have to tweak to achieve this?
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Bah, I have some serious throttling on my VRM's as well during IBT... 2 rounds it passes without throttling on ~1.536v... Got no active cooling on them at all with my H100i so I quickly put a 140mm 1500RPM fan in front of em to see what that does tongue.gif

Oh and the wrong temp reading, well I was using HWMonitor 1.21 but I downloaded AIDA64 now since that's usually a bit more accurate and might give me VRM temp readings as well.


EDIT: I don't think the 970A UD3 is up to the task I want it to do unless this extra cooling keeps him ''alive''.

I've decided to return the board if it can't hold up to these OC's and go look for something that CAN.

So, what board can actually handle ~1.55v without throttling and with proper stable LLC for as little money as possible? (Meaning I don't need a CHVE or something like that...)

As stated earlier today..i have the exact same board and am able to oc up to 5Ghz fairly easily.. the THROTTLING issue was a total piss-off for the the first week I had the board though! So if you have Rev3 and latest Bios.. turn off all the power saving (CE1, C6, C&Q, etc)..there's no APM to turn off..but then turn ON the HPC.. with that I was FINALLY able to do WHATEVER I wanted with the board in terms of voltages, clocks, etc WITHOUT any THROTTLING! That *should* work.. i eventually went back down from EXTREME LLC to Ultra or High... and had to play around with the voltages but with a water cooler as low as a Corsair H60 (also used the H100) I was able to do 4.8Ghz at 48 degress and 5Ghz and keeping under 54 degrees (averaged 49-52)! I was surprised but the board handled very well.

Maybe your specific board is problematic but i do KNOW the UD3 can handle almost anything you put it through..it just doesn't have all the extra oc and vrm power features like the Asus (Sabertooth, I now have and has been recommended to you).. it has that quirky throttling issue (but is easily overcome..at least for me and a few others who posted).. all the UD3/5/7 are notorious for VDroop..and I did experience it..but nothing too heavy.. LLC can go a bit high on voltages but can be worked with and sometimes the voltages can be a bit up and down at times...but with proper tweaking, the board can handle high clocks/voltages and be stable with good temps..

ps. but if you feel you must return and/or replace or upgrade..to say.. a Sabertooth, I can't argue with you there! it IS a better board through and through and more importantly is made of better material, has more features and a lot more BIOS controls and options for oc'ing and vrm digi+ power controls! it is sweet!

With you up until you said the Saber is made better.

There is only one motherboard out there that competes with Gigabyte's UD series in terms of PCB quality, and it's the Crosshair series. Gigabyte adds a whole extra PCB layer so the copper doesn't show through the paint and make black look brown. (OCD much?) Not even including the double-thick copper layers. And even then, ASUS will only copy that on their top-of-the-line boards.
Edited by KyadCK - 3/2/13 at 1:29pm
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You have a real eye for tubing Gurty , brilliant...just brilliant biggrin.gif

Brilliant?? Are you a transplanted Brit??
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You have a real eye for tubing Gurty , brilliant...just brilliant biggrin.gif

Brilliant?? Are you a transplanted Brit??
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LOL

its not meant to be pretty. Im not trying to shag it

i wouldnt dare call someones pc ugly and yours aint much looks too bland.

i bet my ugly pc would kick yours into touch

into touch or in the tush? (tuchas) in Yiddish
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Package temp and core temp are identical. The socket temp which is sometimes called cpu temp is the higher value and not as important as package/core temp. Got it???

The questions wasn't about which one was which, it was about using the sensors to control the fans. Thanks for the patronizing attitude though, it brightened my day.
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PS. So Imprezzion/Wi****Was - what actually worked or what did it take to get your boards/bios to now allow you to change and manually arealy set your multiplier(s)/voltage controls?

I have been away since Thursday and won't be back until tomorrow so after I try the combo of suggestions on here I will report back with what it takes on my setup.

The pressures in the rear of the case from the noctua and top exhaust fans is so large that the rear 120mm exhaust barley pushes air out of the case. Do you think I would be better off running it as an Intake fan to draw more air to the VRM area as it would be exhausted out of the top quickly any way?
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