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Well Kyad, I never expected to say this, but the M5A97 R2.0 ctually clocks better then the UD3. The UD3 was unstable no matter what I did, and I just passes 2 hours of IBT on Maximum on the M5A97 with 4.52Ghz @ 1.404v - NB & HT @ 2400Mhz.

Just too bad the M5A97 doesn't wanna run with my BBSE Tridents.. It just refuses to run anything over 1866Mhz on them and it randomly reboots or gives Memory Management errors with lower speeds. Heck even 1600 10-10-10-30 crashes randomly while the chips can do 2133 7-9-7...

I'll see what i'm going to do.. Maybe i'll grab a better board, like a M5A99X EVO, and hope it'll take the Tridents, or maybe i'l just trade it for something else like a 1155 set again... I really don't know rofl.

970a-UD3.

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what batch number was your 8350?

Both were / are the same, as the one I received as a replacement: 1245PGN

First one had a VID of 1.4v and wouldn't clock anything over 4.4ghz stable no matter what voltage. The replacement (the one I'm on now) has a VID of 1.35 and can run 4.7ghz fairly stable, but I need more cooling to really find it's limits.
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Both were / are the same, as the one I received as a replacement: 1245PGN

First one had a VID of 1.4v and wouldn't clock anything over 4.4ghz stable no matter what voltage. The replacement (the one I'm on now) has a VID of 1.35 and can run 4.7ghz fairly stable, but I need more cooling to really find it's limits.

oh ok. yeah the first one i understand but would imagine that you just hit the thermal limits early on when you hit a voltage wall.. I have a 1.375VID and it loves it some volts.

as far as your second chip i would imagine it should be able to hit 5Ghz with proper cooling and power
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no problem
thats one way to look at it.. however there are a couple other things that come into play,, and it had seemed to want a more in depth answer..
I wouldn't say that.. Kyad is running 5.2 on a ud3.... also you are doing a small OC.. im sure there has to be something going on or you just got a bunk board. I even got 4.5 on the MSI GD65 but anything after that it just faltered.. so TBH i seriously doubt that board is better than the ud3..

before getting another board I would check out the ram QVL that may be in part why its not working that great.. in addition since you are running a lower grade board you may have to hit that timing with FSB overclocking to get it stable. I know with the GD65 thats what I had to do to even run my ram at 1866

I never said the board by itself is better then the UD3. Hell, it isn't even close. (Ok, The BIOS is 100x better but yeah.. I just LOVE ASUS's UEFI).

Only problems I have with the UD3 is that my UD3 is a Rev 1.2 which is the worst of all revisions and has just 3 BIOS's from which the most stable and recent one is a BETA...
The Rev1.2 isn't supported by GB anymore either in terms of updates or BIOS's since the newest BIOS is of Oct. 2012 (Not including the BETA which only has updated AHCI ROM)..

And about the small OC, yeah on the M5A I take a small OC... I don't dare to push vCore higher then ~1.425v on a 4+2 board without Digi+ VRM's... I blew up my 7970 as well with benching (on 1.38v, with very badly cooled VRM's due to the Accelero's small VRM sinks) so i'm a bit more careful with VRM's these days...

I tried to go for 4.8-5Ghz on the UD3, and I know this particular CPU can do this at about 1.552v only the GB can't hold that voltage stable. That is, the 970 UD3 can't. The 990FX UD3 probably can as it has like 8 LLC options in stead of 2. Also, VRM Thermal throttling comes in hard after just 2 runs of IBT. Even with a 140mm fan aimed at them. Also, the RAM, I don't even know for sure that they are good.. My M5A97 won't take them either so...

Don't know, the GB is a fine board, but it just isn't the board i'm looking for.

Don't get me wrong on this one, i'm not a newb when it comes to overclocking, but i've never had a board act like either of these two, and that's probably because I never buy low-end stuff. And the one time I did, (P8Z77-V) I blew it up during a run of LinX with a 2500K @ 5.2Ghz - 1.488v...

I didn't really have a choice on this one cause the M5A was included in the trade ad I had limited funds at this time so on reccomendation here I bought the 970A UD3. Just too bad I got a crappy revision and that the board doesn't deliver what I expect of a board.

Well, I settled for 4.52Ghz @ 1.404v on the M5A97. Runs like a champ to be honest and with just 54c with my push fans all the way off I can't complain.
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I never said the board by itself is better then the UD3. Hell, it isn't even close. (Ok, The BIOS is 100x better but yeah.. I just LOVE ASUS's UEFI).

Only problems I have with the UD3 is that my UD3 is a Rev 1.2 which is the worst of all revisions and has just 3 BIOS's from which the most stable and recent one is a BETA...
The Rev1.2 isn't supported by GB anymore either in terms of updates or BIOS's since the newest BIOS is of Oct. 2012 (Not including the BETA which only has updated AHCI ROM)..

And about the small OC, yeah on the M5A I take a small OC... I don't dare to push vCore higher then ~1.425v on a 4+2 board without Digi+ VRM's... I blew up my 7970 as well with benching (on 1.38v, with very badly cooled VRM's due to the Accelero's small VRM sinks) so i'm a bit more careful with VRM's these days...

I tried to go for 4.8-5Ghz on the UD3, and I know this particular CPU can do this at about 1.552v only the GB can't hold that voltage stable. That is, the 970 UD3 can't. The 990FX UD3 probably can as it has like 8 LLC options in stead of 2. Also, VRM Thermal throttling comes in hard after just 2 runs of IBT. Even with a 140mm fan aimed at them. Also, the RAM, I don't even know for sure that they are good.. My M5A97 won't take them either so...

Don't know, the GB is a fine board, but it just isn't the board i'm looking for.

Don't get me wrong on this one, i'm not a newb when it comes to overclocking, but i've never had a board act like either of these two, and that's probably because I never buy low-end stuff. And the one time I did, (P8Z77-V) I blew it up during a run of LinX with a 2500K @ 5.2Ghz - 1.488v...

I didn't really have a choice on this one cause the M5A was included in the trade ad I had limited funds at this time so on reccomendation here I bought the 970A UD3. Just too bad I got a crappy revision and that the board doesn't deliver what I expect of a board.

Well, I settled for 4.52Ghz @ 1.404v on the M5A97. Runs like a champ to be honest and with just 54c with my push fans all the way off I can't complain.
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oh ok. yeah the first one i understand but would imagine that you just hit the thermal limits early on when you hit a voltage wall.. I have a 1.375VID and it loves it some volts.

as far as your second chip i would imagine it should be able to hit 5Ghz with proper cooling and power


Indeed,

However, there first chip (with the 1.4v VID) stayed very cool. It never topped 55c at 1.55v and that's with my H60. It was just a terrabad clocker.

I looked into a RX240 raystorm setup, but honestly... It's a bit much (I'm a tight butt with money) and I'm too lazy to deal with that. lol

So I'm looking for a used H100 on the cheap. Anyone have a H100 they want to move? wink.gif

Oh, and I tried out some AS5 in place of my standard MX4 just for grins... and its roughly ~4c on average hotter than the MX4. blahh...
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no problem
thats one way to look at it.. however there are a couple other things that come into play,, and it had seemed to want a more in depth answer..
I wouldn't say that.. Kyad is running 5.2 on a ud3.... also you are doing a small OC.. im sure there has to be something going on or you just got a bunk board. I even got 4.5 on the MSI GD65 but anything after that it just faltered.. so TBH i seriously doubt that board is better than the ud3..

before getting another board I would check out the ram QVL that may be in part why its not working that great.. in addition since you are running a lower grade board you may have to hit that timing with FSB overclocking to get it stable. I know with the GD65 thats what I had to do to even run my ram at 1866

I never said the board by itself is better then the UD3. Hell, it isn't even close. (Ok, The BIOS is 100x better but yeah.. I just LOVE ASUS's UEFI).

Only problems I have with the UD3 is that my UD3 is a Rev 1.2 which is the worst of all revisions and has just 3 BIOS's from which the most stable and recent one is a BETA...
The Rev1.2 isn't supported by GB anymore either in terms of updates or BIOS's since the newest BIOS is of Oct. 2012 (Not including the BETA which only has updated AHCI ROM)..

And about the small OC, yeah on the M5A I take a small OC... I don't dare to push vCore higher then ~1.425v on a 4+2 board without Digi+ VRM's... I blew up my 7970 as well with benching (on 1.38v, with very badly cooled VRM's due to the Accelero's small VRM sinks) so i'm a bit more careful with VRM's these days...

I tried to go for 4.8-5Ghz on the UD3, and I know this particular CPU can do this at about 1.552v only the GB can't hold that voltage stable. That is, the 970 UD3 can't. The 990FX UD3 probably can as it has like 8 LLC options in stead of 2. Also, VRM Thermal throttling comes in hard after just 2 runs of IBT. Even with a 140mm fan aimed at them. Also, the RAM, I don't even know for sure that they are good.. My M5A97 won't take them either so...

Don't know, the GB is a fine board, but it just isn't the board i'm looking for.

Don't get me wrong on this one, i'm not a newb when it comes to overclocking, but i've never had a board act like either of these two, and that's probably because I never buy low-end stuff. And the one time I did, (P8Z77-V) I blew it up during a run of LinX with a 2500K @ 5.2Ghz - 1.488v...

I didn't really have a choice on this one cause the M5A was included in the trade ad I had limited funds at this time so on reccomendation here I bought the 970A UD3. Just too bad I got a crappy revision and that the board doesn't deliver what I expect of a board.

Well, I settled for 4.52Ghz @ 1.404v on the M5A97. Runs like a champ to be honest and with just 54c with my push fans all the way off I can't complain.

Quick tip. Gigabyte does not release a new BIOS every week. No board in their entire AMD line up got a BIOS update since October with the exception of fixing something, or this new Beta BIOS. That does not translate into "Not Supported", that translates into "It works. Do not break it."

As for throttling, that's why you turn off APM.
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Highest Gflops i can get out of this chip using 4.8ghz temps are a bit high since my chip needs more voltage and only running my fans at 900rpm so its nice and quiet 75f in my room Ready for some Hitman Absolution now and BF3 to do more testing
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Add me to the list please biggrin.gif I have a hyper 212+ evo cooling it atm and doing a poor job. Have a CM H60 coming in the mail from newegg. First time watercooling. Heard good things about it though.
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I think i'm gunna pick up a 990FX UD3 or UD5. A new UD3 is €114 and I see a secondhand UD5 for €100 which i'm hoping to pick up...

Now I just really hope my BBSE Tridents are OK...
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