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hopefully a simple and straight forward question:

What are all the factors (if more then just the simple CPU clock freq) that effect the performance output in the Intel Burn Test (for AMD version)?
I've read that it's possible that practically everything can effect the GFlops scoring from over oc cpu freq (of course) to the bus speed, to the NB freq and HT freq, to the ram freq and timings, etc, etc.. is this true? or is it just the clock speed? and if it is all of the features together, what is the most effective balance and what has more weight then others in the setup?

For an 8350 chip, its stated one "should" optimally get in the 90-100 GFlops range running at 4.8Ghz-5.0Ghz...but many range from as low as 75 to mid eighties from what I've seen...and even on one of the setups I've tested.. So it makes me wonder.. is there really that much variance from setup to setup at the same clock speed that can make performance swing as high as 15-20%? or is it all just numbers and simple useless benchmarks?

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My brother in law has today bought a 3570k and z77 sabertooth, he is currently completing his overclock, then i am looking forward to some benches between us. I already beat him out on price by a mile. Will be interesting to run some games/benches

z77 sabertooth £185.00
3570k £169.00

990 fx sabertooth £132.00
Fx8320 £104.00
post #9493 of 67221
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Not too bad at all...especially from the chip you were coming from! I assume this one is definitely working much better for you and confirmed that the other was a dud right? How does that work btw..in terms of replacement with AMD.. if the chip works..and boots and is stable at stock and all that.. but it's terrible at practically any overclock and uses more voltage that normal...do factors like that warrant a replacement, in their eyes and will they ship a new one for reason such as that? Cuz I do have another chip myself that I'd like to have replaced and wonder about that...cuz at stock it's just fine..
Looks good..cant complain! Scores well and more then enough to perform well in whatever gaming endevours you may have.

I RMA'd the other chip back to NewEgg not AMD. I simply told them the VID was much too high for a 8350 and that was unacceptable to me as this is a top tier chip. I only had the older chip for a couple hours before I shipped it back to them.

As of now I love the new chip with my new H220. 4.725 @ 50c and tight as can be memory makes for one SUPER snappy system. I'm not only impressed, but will be building another system for the wife.

As far as IBT goes. Memory speed and timings has a great deal to do with the GFLOPS. Almost everything else effects the score as well. Some of what I've found with this FX chip that keep the general scores high in all benchmarks are:

Memory multi: 8 is the absolute best. regardless of speed, using the 8 multi has proven the most stable and speedy.

Memory speed vs timings : I'm currently running 1800 (225 x 8) @ 8.8.8.24.33 1t. This speed is MUCH faster than 2100 @ cl10or anything in cl9 area. I've noticed timing is still particually important to these AMD chips. As long as its = or > 1600, tighten the timings as much as possible.

Voltage: I can drop my IBT GFLOPS by 10 just by bumping my CPU voltage to 1.55v. (same clocks) Keeping voltage as low as you can for your clock makes a HUGE difference.

Too much clock: My chip performs MUCH better @ 4.7 than it does @ 4.8 -4.9 regardless of voltage. This is more than likely a motherboard / cpu combination issue as I don't have LLC as well as other things... so YMMV with any setup... but finding your combo's preferred clock home is key.
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How can you stably run dimms at both higher frequency and faster timings?? I would think that it would cause instabilty problems and you would have to up your dram voltage to unacceptably high values that would definitely shorten the life of the memory. I for one wouldn't be looking to use that ram in my rig after you zapped that ram at those ratings for a couple of months.

Will you please start hitting the multi button for each one you want to reply to consecutively the hit quote when you are done.. it also will work across pages.. please and thank you

its like every CPU.. some ram just overclocks better.. for example the Samsung magic ram.. as far as claiming the higher voltage nope.. I can run them at that frequency with that latency at 1.5v stock voltage... if i dropped down the the 7 mark I started hitting instability.. My ram has never been hit with anything more than 1.65v and that is only because I upped the voltage to see what I could do.. in addition i really didn't play around with it too much so im happy with my little oc with tight timings

as far as the Dram VDDA i only suggested that because he got a High voltage kit and also he had to max out the output dram multiplier... he was noticing instability so just like a cpu upping VDDA can help with that.

EDIT: this was more of a concern with instability on power delivery from the motherboard than the actual ram itself
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My brother in law has today bought a 3570k and z77 sabertooth, he is currently completing his overclock, then i am looking forward to some benches between us. I already beat him out on price by a mile. Will be interesting to run some games/benches

z77 sabertooth £185.00
3570k £169.00

990 fx sabertooth £132.00
Fx8320 £104.00

that will be fun to see!
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I'm glad you asked: biggrin.gif


Thanks for this, but id like to ask you a favour smile.gif

can u take one card out and run bench again pls smile.gif

id like to compare my card thumb.gif so i know if im going to go to expense of a second card
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still not added ; ;

my old 8350 batch was 1237.... however it now may RIP....... died ocing ( still worked but well... couldnt hit 4.8ghz like it used to failed right away ( always 8th core RIGHT after prime started... ) my old chip couldnt hit 4.9 or higher.... killed it trying thank goodness i bought the "extended warranty" so got a new chip same oc ( priming now ) lot 1252 and it is stable after ~ 2 hours @4.8ghz @ .025v less ( old was 1.5 new is 1.475, gonna see how much lower i can go in volts and see if she can break 5ghz. only time will tell... PLEASE ADD ME ~ thanks
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still not added ; ;

my old 8350 batch was 1237.... however it now may RIP....... died ocing ( still worked but well... couldnt hit 4.8ghz like it used to failed right away ( always 8th core RIGHT after prime started... ) my old chip couldnt hit 4.9 or higher.... killed it trying thank goodness i bought the "extended warranty" so got a new chip same oc ( priming now ) lot 1252 and it is stable after ~ 2 hours @4.8ghz @ .025v less ( old was 1.5 new is 1.475, gonna see how much lower i can go in volts and see if she can break 5ghz. only time will tell... PLEASE ADD ME ~ thanks

Good news on the cpu smile.gif I doubt ull get it lower than that mate. 1.475 for 4.8ghz is darn good and dont blow this one up tongue.gif

These chips at 5ghz take a whole lot more lol. i mean they get hungry for juice to be stable at 5ghz

Edit:Actually i just seen mine and im at 1.45 redface.gif but i do fail ibt avx lol
Edited by gertruude - 3/8/13 at 2:56pm
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Thanks for this, but id like to ask you a favour smile.gif

can u take one card out and run bench again pls smile.gif

id like to compare my card thumb.gif so i know if im going to go to expense of a second card

sure thing:



keep in mind this is on the EXTREME HD setting...

I'm going to shoot for a decent OC on these cards right now....

Check out: [OFFICIAL]--- Top 30 --- Unigine 'Valley' Benchmark 1.0
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yep, mine fails at 1.45 even at 4.6Ghz, and I need to figure why I have vdroop, LOL. 1.46v idle, 1.44 load, wat...
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sure thing:



keep in mind this is on the EXTREME HD setting...

I'm going to shoot for a decent OC on these cards right now....

Check out: [OFFICIAL]--- Top 30 --- Unigine 'Valley' Benchmark 1.0

glad to see my setup is comparable to a 660-660TI and I only paid 175 in total for both cards


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Win 7 Ultimate x64 AOC 1080p LED Microsoft OCZ 850w 
Case
Coolermaster HAF 912 
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AMD FX 8350 @ 5.06GHz AsUS Sabertooth R2.0 xfx 280x DD Crucial Ballistex Tactical Tracer 1866Mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 830 SSD 128GB LG BD-ROM/DVD Rewriter XSPC Raystorm RS240 kit A LOT OF FANS 
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WIN 7 ultamate AOC 23" LED LCD Microsoft wireless laser 6000 Rosewill Capstone 750w 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
Coolermaster HAF 912 Microsoft wireless laser 6000 none 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
phenom II x6 1100T MSI 990FXA-GD65 GTX 460 GTX 460 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer 8GB (2 x 4GB)... Samsung SSD 830  LG Blueray Coolermaster N520 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win 7 Ultimate x64 AOC 1080p LED Microsoft OCZ 850w 
Case
Coolermaster HAF 912 
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