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Workstation build idea:

MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128556
Nice full featured micro board here.

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117286&Tpk=e3%201230%20v2
E3-1230 V2. This is the workstation/server "version" of the i7 Ivy. Better value! Or this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117285

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195119
28nm workstation card.

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231569
$30 promo code savings on 32GB 1600-9-9-9-1.5V kit. (stick to the basics for this build, this is a reliable choice).

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352011

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151117

Throw in a sammy 830 and an optical drive and that's a pretty nice little workstation built from great quality parts for around or under $1500 (depending on drive size). I'd suggest going with a 256GB in each "rig."

I didn't optimize the selection above for pricing, just pointing out what hardware choices I would go with from a quality standpoint primarily.

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For the gaming rig, slap an i5-3570K on an ASRock Extreme3 with a decent GTX670, a 2x4GB sammy wonderam kit, 256Gb sammy 830, Throw the mess into a case that makes you warm and fuzzy feeling and power it with a gold or better rated unit in the 650-750W range to make room for SLI.

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post #22 of 26
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Tell me something, x79 have any advantages over z77? Performance or otherwise? Oh and I might consider going cheaper like you suggest, and the build you have looks great.
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Tell me something, x79 have any advantages over z77? Performance or otherwise? Oh and I might consider going cheaper like you suggest, and the build you have looks great.

x79 has quad channel RAM (as opposed to dual channel on z77) and up to two extra cores, so it'd be faster for the most part in heavily threaded applications. Conversely, z77 is a bit faster at low-threaded applications, is cheaper, and is more efficient. I'm not sure how well AutoCAD uses threads, but I think x79 will be faster for it. You should look up benchmarks for the 3930k vs. 3770k to see which one works better for you (I would post some, but I'm on my iPad at the moment).
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post #24 of 26
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Well what I'm utilizing is more alias automotive type program, which is a mix between maya and autocad (engineering and 3d sculpting). Do you think that work station CPU and graphics card could handle that?
post #25 of 26
A Pentium G850 and a FirePro V4900 would "handle" that just fine. More CPU and GPU grunt is just CONVENIENT if you do a lot of animation rendering.

The E3-1230 for $244 that I am suggesting, is an exceptional performing CPU for a workstation class machine, I assure you there are serious professionals the world over using far less CPU power and getting along just fine. The FX-8320 for $180 would actually perform in a very similar class at a lower price point in very parallel workloads, but would use more electricity so it's sort of a tradeoff. A 3930K is the next logical step up from the ~$200 CPU options, the implementation of which is over twice the cost for the CPU/MOBO, for a performance improvement of ~50%. Yes, the X79 platform is a step up, but I personally have a hard time with the price/performance issue in that class. If the cost is a non-issue for you then you may as well go X79 3930K and enjoy.


Have a look at these results: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/firepro-v3900-review-benchmark,3153-7.html

If Alias Auto is based on the maya engine, then a workstation class card here is going to come with some major benefits. The quadro 600 is the same as a GT430, and the V3900 listed there is the same as an HD6570 hardware wise. The difference is all in the workstation drivers. There's nearly a 5X improvement there. If consumer card performance were to scale up with hardware as "expected," then it would take about an HD6970 to match the performance in maya, of the $120 V3900. To be honest though, looking at the performance of the HD7750 in that benchmark there is telling, it should produce a much better result than the HD6570 but doesn't. A possible explanation, is that, they are purposely limiting performance in pro apps on consumer cards through throttling/manipulation. In other words, it's possible that buying a top tier consumer GPU will result in crap performance in the pro app regardless.

It would be nice if some of these benchmarks were more comprehensive: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/firepro-w8000-w9000-benchmark,3265-8.html
but there's another chart to study... It's obvious to me that the sweet spot for price/performance in maya is something like a V4900 for $165.

Also: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/firepro-w8000-w9000-benchmark,3265-14.html
In AutoCAD 3D performance, the V4900 does well enough for it's price in everything but the "Rotate Realistic" benchmark.

The W5000 is however, probably the smart choice for the long haul, as it provides double precision FP capability, and a much heavier duty core configuration than the V4900 that will result in a better performance in other applications that leverage the compute capability better, and if used as a secondary gaming rig, its just shy of an HD7850, which makes it quite competent.

Regards,
Eric
Edited by mdocod - 10/26/12 at 1:50am
     
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Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
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Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
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Good choice with th 3939k over the 3960x.
Have you considered an MSi lightning card?
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