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Currently I am running single heavy OC'd water cooled HD 7850 with dedicated GTS 450 for PhysX.
I recently bought myself a 120Hz monitor so would like to see more than 60 FPS, to do that I would need some more graphic power.
My question is: should I change HD 7850 for HD 7950 and leave GTS 450 for PhysX or get rid off GTS 450 and throw another HD 7850 in crossfire? I only have got 2xPCI-E ports so my choices are really limited frown.gif
Or should I discard AMD graphic cards and go for GTX 670 and still leave GTS 450 as dedicated PhysX card and in the future add another GTX 670 in SLI?
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what is your monitor resolution . what games are you playing ? how much does physx matter to you ?
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what is your monitor resolution . what games are you playing ? how much does physx matter to you ?
Monitor resolution is 1920x1080 120Hz, I play various games, currently Dishonored and X-Com. I like the idea of having PhysX card I really could see a tremendous difference in Borderlands 2 and Mafia II with GTS 450. I also like having everything maxed out with AA and anisotropic filtering @1920x1080. Do not play too many online FPS'es.
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I think a 450 would make a fine PhysX card, although not sure how it would work with a AMD/ATI card. Modified Bios maybe? thinking.gif
 
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Monitor resolution is 1920x1080 120Hz, I play various games, currently Dishonored and X-Com. I like the idea of having PhysX card I really could see a tremendous difference in Borderlands 2 and Mafia II with GTS 450. I also like having everything maxed out with AA and anisotropic filtering @1920x1080. Do not play too many online FPS'es.

The best option would be to get a HD 7950. Keep the GTS 450 for PhysX. two reasons. With 12.11 beta driver AMD has the faster GPU and with the Never Settle game bundle its just too good a value to ignore. Even before the 12.11 beta driver HD 7950 was on par to slightly faster compared with GTX 670 when both cards were overclocked.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/08/23/galaxy_gtx_660_ti_gc_oc_vs_670_hd_7950/3

With the latest drivers there is only one winner - HD 7950. the Never Settle game bundle has 3 free games - Farcry 3 , Hitman Absolution , Sleeping Dogs and a 20% off on MOH Warfighter. I have completed Sleeping Dogs and its a very good game. Just watch out for a HD 7950 with this game bundle to appear at overclockers uk or amazon uk or scan uk.

http://blogs.amd.com/play/this-holiday-never-settle/

The Never settle game bundle has shown up at overclockers uk. but its yet to be bundled with a HD 7950. most cards are selling with older game bundles.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-003-AM&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1673

The HIS ICEQ HD 7950 has one of the best coolers. so you could get this card. just make sure you can fit this card cause its close to 12 inches length.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7950-review-benchmark,3207-14.html
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-065-HS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1673
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100% agree with Raghu

Also keeping the 7950 means you can at a later date crossfire this for even more power, although this would mean ditching the GTS 450 or getting a different motherboard.

Verdict still out on Physx for me... I'm thinking of borrowing my mate's 8800GTX to use with my 7870 with Hybrid Physx. If it doesn't take off then I can bin the thing!

+1 for HIS coolers, but they are BIG cards

Cheers,

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Thanks guys,
I am not worried too much about cooling the HD 7950 as I will get myself a nice water block fitted on it so the cooler does not make any difference to me. I will also OC it heavily, so going for the factory OC'ed versions would not make much sense either. I will probably go for the cheapest HD 7950 I can find and spend the rest of the money on the full plate water block.
If it comes to dedicated PhysX card I cannot really fault my GTS 450, coupled with my HD 7850 and overclocked to 700Mhz outperforms a single GTX 580, have a look yourself:

My scores:
http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fluidmark_140_score.php?id=4566
http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fluidmark_140_score.php?id=4568

GTX 580, GTX 480 and GTX 680 scores:
http://www.geeks3d.com/20120502/physx-test-gtx-680-vs-gtx-580-vs-gtx-480-in-fluidmark/

, it is Zotac Eco version so it only takes one slot on the back of your case and it does not have an extra power connector!

What I also noticed is that HD 7850@1200Mhz seems to be a bottleneck for GTS 450 @1920x1080 with the 8xMSAA, as the Radeon runs at full load for the time of the test, when GeForce only loads up to 60%
It is however the other way round if you run preset 720p settings with no MSAA on, Radeon only loads up to 80% and waits for the GeForce to generate PhysX effects, which runs at full load all the time!


The conclusion is one, when you choose a dedicated PhysX card you really need to pair it right with you main card as one can be sometimes a bottleneck to the other.
I think that GTS 450 will be just fine with HD 7950 in 1920x1080, but it could struggle with something more powerful like HD 7970 or any crossfire setup with HD 7850 or above!
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If you are watercooling the sapphire cards are generally considered to be very good for voltage overclocking. also pick cards which are factory overclocked . there will be slightly better binning with these OC models. also check which companies provide warranty when you remove the stock cooler.

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100% agree with Raghu
Also keeping the 7950 means you can at a later date crossfire this for even more power, although this would mean ditching the GTS 450 or getting a different motherboard.
Verdict still out on Physx for me... I'm thinking of borrowing my mate's 8800GTX to use with my 7870 with Hybrid Physx. If it doesn't take off then I can bin the thing!
+1 for HIS coolers, but they are BIG cards
Cheers,
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They are rather big cards yes..
I dislike mine as the VRM cooling is rather bad.. Otherwise it's a great card! thumb.gif
 
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I would keep the 7850 and buy another 7850 tbh.

2 7850's in CF is just great performance for little money.

I bought these 2 7850's for the same price as my previous GTX670, the 7850's vastly outperform the GTX670 and also the GTX680 and 7970 by alot.

Here are some links from my own 3D mark 11 profile:

The 7850's
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4217396


The GTX670
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4217396

Both cards were overclocked to there max.

Keep in mind the 7850's were done on the 12.6 drivers and would score a bit higher now with 12.11 drivers.
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CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
AMD E-350 Asus E35M1-M 4GB DDR3 Kingston 1333mhz  1,5TB wester digital green 
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640GB WD Caviar blue 500GB Samsung Spinpoint Samsung Dvd-rewriter windows xp sp2 
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19inch phillips tft generic Bequiet 300Watt Fratal Design Core 
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microsoft none 
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