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Not a chance. I know that sales figures on this will be hard to get, but there's no way that the Nexus 7 is outselling the current iPad, day-to-day.
I'll try and find some numbers to back that up, but I honestly don't think they're even necessary.

Yea, unfortunately, you're right. The Q3 sales of the Nexus 7 were around 1M, while the iPad clocked in at around 17m (somehow). It is important to note that the Nexus 7 was entirely new, while the iPad had been around for a fairly long time, but it doesn't make up for the massive sales difference.


TBH I dont think people are going to be able to out-sell the iPad. It's too entrenched. It'll take a LOT of work to beat it, and it's not going to be via a direct attack. They'll need to basically destroy the iPhone, and make it non-viable for Apple. Through that the iPod will essentially die (no one buys them anymore - people just use their iPhone), and that will mean the last user of iOS will be the iPad.

As people will be using other OS' (Win, Android, etc.), they'll lean towards a tablet using the existing OS.

It's possible, but it's not happening in the next 1.5 years. It might start, but the iPad will be the #1 tablet until at least Q2-3 2014.
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Contracts aren't a good point either, because phone companies make up different plans based around the iPhone. Smartphones start at free for £10.50 a month, to £379 at £40+ a month, saying that you can automatically afford either is ridiculous.
Not many kids can find summer jobs now, let alone make (what you assume to be) thousands of dollars over the summer.

Cuz in your infinite wisdom you know how few summer jobs there are for kids these days lol. Landscaping, roofing? One roofing job that lasts a week can land you well over a grand. Thats just one week, i could see thousands over the course of a summer. just saying, there are jobs out there.
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Well, the iPad Mini was disappointing. It would have been extremely competitive if it were in the $250 price range, but at $329, you'd be better off getting yourself the iPad 2 since the Mini's specs are the same as the bigger tablet. IMO, the Nexus 7 and Kindle Fire HD are definitely better buys with easily superior specs.
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They have made their brand. Any products they produce will do well so it's not that. The point is, apple want to abuse their reputation and will produce anything to make money. Look at their iMACs and Macbooks. Hardware wise, they are completely awful. So why do people pay over £1000 for sub £600 computers? Because it has an apple logo. They know that their following will buy ANYTHING Apple makes no matter what it is and what the price is, therefore they can afford to hike their prices up, and that is why their profit margins are astronomical.

It's only £600 by your standards. Apple spend a lot of time integrating hardware and software. A 15" Retina Macbook Pro would cost about the same as my sig rig without its monitors, but I'm still buying one. Do you really think that people would buy them if they were 'awful'? It's nothing to do with the Apple logo, it's the fact that people don't tunnel-vision on one part of the specification. If the Haswell Retina Macbook Pro has a 650M in it and they show me that it's faster, I won't care that it only has a 650M in it. If you buy something based on one exact part of its usability or spec sheet, then no, Apple products aren't for you, but don't insult the products because you physically cannot understand why they exist.

Apple don't sell stuff based on hardware. Raw horsepower is useless, it's all about power-to-weight ratio, which OSX/iOS wins at, unless you strip out your Windows/Android build yourself.
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How annoying that must be for the "New Ipad" owners, Ipad 4 coming after just 6months.....wow.
 
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It's only £600 by your standards. Apple spend a lot of time integrating hardware and software. A 15" Retina Macbook Pro would cost about the same as my sig rig without its monitors, but I'm still buying one. Do you really think that people would buy them if they were 'awful'? It's nothing to do with the Apple logo, it's the fact that people don't tunnel-vision on one part of the specification. If the Haswell Retina Macbook Pro has a 650M in it and they show me that it's faster, I won't care that it only has a 650M in it. If you buy something based on one exact part of its usability or spec sheet, then no, Apple products aren't for you, but don't insult the products because you physically cannot understand why they exist.
Apple don't sell stuff based on hardware. Raw horsepower is useless, it's all about power-to-weight ratio, which OSX/iOS wins at, unless you strip out your Windows/Android build yourself.
First off, i can fully 'understand why they exist', don't be so damn patronising. Secondly, i can get an equally spec'd out laptop without the apple logo for under £1000. Such as this. If i stick an apple logo on it's £1300.
All apple is nowadays is 'Its X% thinner than the previous model'. From a hardware prospective, it's deeply concerning how much people are paying for sub par hardware.
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Guys lets get back on topic

Why is the iPad mini the worst thing since world war 2?
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hey who wants to buy my ipad 3 that i just bought 3MONTHS AGOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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Guys lets get back on topic
Why is the iPad mini the worst thing since world war 2?
The fact you just deleted what you just said says enough.
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First off, i can fully 'understand why they exist', don't be so damn patronising. Secondly, i can get an equally spec'd out laptop without the apple logo for under £1000. Such as this. If i stick an apple logo on it's £1300.
All apple is nowadays is 'Its X% thinner than the previous model'. From a hardware prospective, it's deeply concerning how much people are paying for sub par hardware.

Well then you just said why the products are the price they are.

You pay for a sleeker design.
You pay for it not being made from crappy plastic.
You pay for a better display.
You pay for a better trackpad.
You pay for a thinner form factor.
You pay for weight saving.
You pay for a better designed power connector.

It's all about the product fitting into your life better, rather than being all out faster. If you don't care about how it benchmarks, those traits I listed are very desirable.
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