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As I was skimming over the news threads, I thought this one was named "Apple invent livestream." I was about to facepalm so hard.
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How do you figure that? The iPad Mini Wi-Fi is 0.68lbs (308g) and 7.2mm thick (~0.28"): Source. Versus the Nexus 7 which is 0.75lbs (340g) and 10.45mm thick (~0.41"): Source.
More specially it's 16:10 (1280x800, Nexus 7) vs 4:3 (1024x768, iPad Mini).
I agree, it would have been much better if it had a higher clocked version of the A6 from the iPhone 5.
That is similar to my reaction, although I do really like the look of the new black/slate iPad Mini.biggrin.gif there was a lot of products announced at the event but I was most surprised by the iPad 4. I guess because of the new Lightning connector, among other reasons, they made an exception to their normal ~yearly release schedule. Possibly they released it early too so as not to lose any Christmas shopping sales for people waiting for the new iPad, although that is likely a bit far fetched.
In regards to everything else. I also agree, it was interesting but nothing spectacular. The 13' rMBP received a sweet 2560x1600 display but got stuck with HD4000 IGP in a $1699 laptop (I really like Apple products but only they could get away with that). The Mac Mini got an incremental Ivy Bridge upgrade that was long over due and I am not sure why it took so long. The iMac got a thinner teardrop design with Ivy Bridge and Kepler but no Retina display. The iPad Mini I still think is very important for Apple to get them into the 7" tablet race but I was unimpressed by the $329 price tag (instead of the rumored $299), and iPad 2 like hardware with the A5 Soc and low 1024x768 resolution.
The Nexus 7 doesn't have any card reader for storage expansion (SD or Micro SD). So I am not sure what you're talking about.
http://www.google.com/nexus/#/7/specs

Ok, apparently you're right. The review I looked at for the nexus 7 was clearly written by a monkey tongue.gif

But lets look at that picture of the screen visibility that apple clearly manipulated.

This is 1280x800:


and this is 1024x768:


Not only is there more visible data on the Nexus 7 due to HIGHER RES, but the nexus 7 aspect ratio is superior for games and movies.

Try making that top image such that you don't have the wasted space on the sides. You're not going to want that wasted space on a 7" screen, it'll make it hard to read.
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So what have we learned today...
Why in the hell get a 16GB iPad mini for $329 when I could get a 32GB Nexus 7 for $249!!!
Overprice Apple product with outdated hardware...

Outdated hardware that still performs better than the outdated Tegra 3 in the Nexus 7. I'm not trying to be mean but devices like these don't need insane hardware. My phone has the Snapdragon S4 which runs everything great and with jelly Bean on my One S the phone feels as smooth as iOS. If you compared the iPad Mini price vs the iPad 2 I would understand why you wouldn't want it for $329 but attacking the hardware that Samsung made just because it's outdated and performs better than it's competitor doesn't make sense.

Anyway I am waiting for a 10 inch Nexus tablet to be release. Hopefully they announce one the 29th!
Edited by WannaBeOCer - 10/23/12 at 1:56pm
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post #244 of 436
Here's a good comparison page: http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/23/ipad-mini-vs-2012-ipad-whats-different/

Seems like the only reason for an iPad 4 so soon was so all of Apple's newest devices could use the same lightning connector (my opinion).

EDIT: Post #12345, woot.
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Aluminum unibody is pretty weak honestly. If you want a strong, durable laptop the only way to go is Lenovo Thinkpad. You really can't even begin to compare a thinkpad to a mac on durability or chassis strength.
And while I know many people don't like their looks, I think they look better than any mac ever made, and pretty much every other laptop ever.

I have a ThinkPad ( hence the magnesium chassis portion of the post you quoted ) smile.gif Still has a bit of flex and I actually prefer my work XFR and while it can be run over by a tank it still has flex to it, but it can take the beating and not be phased.

And my current Latitude that I use most while at home looks almost like the ThinkPads ( reason I got it, I actually like that look ) tongue.gif
Edited by Shrak - 10/23/12 at 2:06pm
post #246 of 436
I think i like the size an weight of the iPad Mini.I will just get it once it gets Retina Display.
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Aluminum unibody is pretty weak honestly. If you want a strong, durable laptop the only way to go is Lenovo Thinkpad. You really can't even begin to compare a thinkpad to a mac on durability or chassis strength.
And while I know many people don't like their looks, I think they look better than any mac ever made, and pretty much every other laptop ever.
If you want to smash your laptop and run it over with a car, you buy a Panasonic Toughbook.

Also, the refurbished ipad 3rd gens are a better deal than the mini...
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I really don't understand the point of an iPad mini...it seems like Apple's trying to fill a gap that really doesn't need filling. And I don't how know how well the integrated graphics will fare driving that many pixels on the thirteen inch rMBP.
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Well then you just said why the products are the price they are.
You pay for a sleeker design.
You pay for it not being made from crappy plastic.
You pay for a better display.
You pay for a better trackpad.
You pay for a thinner form factor.
You pay for weight saving.
You pay for a better designed power connector.
It's all about the product fitting into your life better, rather than being all out faster. If you don't care about how it benchmarks, those traits I listed are very desirable.

The Asus Zenbook Prime UX31A says hello.
Vs. Air 13.3"

Both 13.3"
Zenbook $1099 vs. $1199 (small difference)
What is "sleeker design" They look almost the same.
Both made of metal
Zenbook is 1080p vs. 900p
Trackpad is equally good (IMO)
Zenbook is 1mm thicker
Zenbook is 50g lighter
Zenbook has the same tech specs (CPU, GPU, RAM, SSD, Battery)

Basically, you get the exact same laptop, but with a significantly better screen for less.
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Ok, apparently you're right. The review I looked at for the nexus 7 was clearly written by a monkey tongue.gif
But lets look at that picture of the screen visibility that apple clearly manipulated.
This is 1280x800:

and this is 1024x768:

Not only is there more visible data on the Nexus 7 due to HIGHER RES, but the nexus 7 aspect ratio is superior for games and movies.

Higher res means nothing if it's not optimized properly.

Here's a screenshot of the Guggenheim website straight from my Nexus 7, standard view, on the landscape orientation.

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Claiming Apple are manipulating stuff like this isn't a great idea. Especially when they're not.
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Intel Core i7 4770K Asrock Z87 Extreme4M Asus Direct-CUII HD7970 Patriot Viper Black Mamba 16GB (4x4) 2133MHz 
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Samsung 840 PRO 512GB SSD Samsung Spinpoint F1 2TB Toshiba 7K3000.D 3TB The cheapest one 
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Corsair H100i Windows 8 Pro Dell U2312HM Razer Black Widow Ultimate 
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Intel Core i7 4702MQ Nvidia GTX 760M 8GB (2x4GB) 1600MHz 128GB Sandisk SSD 
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