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When your whole "thing" is that literally everything you make is the best out of anything else on the market, pricing your product at or below your competitors products price points destroys the "prestige" that comes with having your "premium" product.

Man, I guess. I always thought "premium" products had premium specs. After Beats headphones and this, who knows anymore... frown.gif
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Oh boy, did I know that was coming biggrin.gif

Wait, I'm confused, is that inaccurate?
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272 posts in 7 hours. Good record OCN O.O

Droid is better.

Now is when I run out the door.
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Also, it's not like apple couldn't also make an affordable phone. It's their choice to limit their market share. They make a select few expensive laptops, desktops (WAY overpriced there), phones and tablets.

Mac Pro is also worth its price and very comparable to other prebuilt workstations in price, tho I wouldn't recommend the current models since there still pretty outdated. Also, it's not even a desktop by normal consumer standards i.e. the general population nor is it marketed as such.
iMac is very worth its price and is better than every other prebuilt AIO; especially the 27". That said, I'm not impressed with the new iMac.
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MBP13 Retina is a bit of a disappointment.
They airized it and opted to not put dedicated GPU.

When has the 13" MBP ever had a dedicated GPU?
Really don't understand when peopler are surprised/disappointed/angry there isn't on on the new model.
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Sorry, I still prefer *nix based operating systems over Windows any day. Just much more freedom when you go *nix.

Also, $10 says I can make it flex.

Oh, and Samsung customer support is laughable at best. Apple by far has some of the best customer support out of the bunch of OEM's.

How is that even relevant...

If it doesn't flex on its own just picking it up, then it doesn't flex. Making it flex is doing it wrong and completely irrelevant. I could make my MBP flex if I wanted to...

Apple customer support is also laughable at best ime.
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Originally Posted by lordikon View Post

The iPad 2 is only two years old and had that resolution, at a lower PPI.
You need to understand resolution scaling to know why they did it. They had two choices if they wanted proper scaling, 1024x768, or 2048x1536. I think it's obvious why they didn't choose 2048x1536 in a 7.9" tablet that needs to cost around $300.
See my above info. As far as the price though, yes I agree. $299 should have been the max.

There is this little idea called "Advancement."

All of Apple's current devices have been getting progressively nicer screens. The iPad mini didn't get that sort of love. It truly is a disappointment.

Also I do understand resolution scaling. 2048x1536 has exactly 4 times the pixels that 1024x768 does, which means the scaling is incredibly easy. I think the resolution would be forgivable if the tablet cost around $200 (or less) but at their asking price, the iPad mini is a complete and utter joke! There is no way that tablet costs more than about $100 to manufacture. Seriously, the technology used to make that screen is incredibly outdated, not to mention extremely easy for an Apple A5 processor to drive.

The iPad mini has tech from late 2011 to now (late 2012). Apart from a lower PPI screen than some other tablets (which was necessary for app compatibility), I'm not sure what you mean by old tech.

They could've put a faster CPU and GPU, and more RAM, but I'm not sure it really needs it. It's basically an iPad 2 at heart, and the iPad 2 is still a decent tablet. It only has to compete with other smaller tablets like the Nexus and I think it will do fine in that regard. This also gives them a lot of room to improve with the next iPad mini, which I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up with basically the same tech as the iPad 4 has now, in about a year.
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I'm bored of this thread.

It is no longer entertaining.
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it was getting a little out of hand earlier... rolleyes.gif
The mod's managed to clear most of it up i think.
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The iPad mini has tech from late 2011 to now (late 2012). Apart from a lower PPI screen than some other tablets (which was necessary for app compatibility), I'm not sure what you mean by old tech.

They could've put a faster CPU and GPU, and more RAM, but I'm not sure it really needs it. It's basically an iPad 2 at heart, and the iPad 2 is still a decent tablet. It only has to compete with other smaller tablets like the Nexus and I think it will do fine in that regard. This also gives them a lot of room to improve with the next iPad mini, which I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up with basically the same tech as the iPad 4 has now, in about a year.
The cost of the faster CPU and GPU would be battery life and heat, neither of which it can afford. The A5 at 32nm is ideal for the Mini as it will be very power efficient which is necessary for it to maintain ten hours of battery life despite its much smaller 16.3 Whr battery.
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I don't get it... I feel like Apple really missed the price-point by a long-shot. I don't really see the benefit of buying the Mini over the Nexus 7 at this price. I'd understand if the 32 or 64GB was $330, but damn... (EDIT: Whoa. The 64GB is $529...)
Also, why are they being inconsistent with their screen dimension ratio's? You'd think they'd make the new hardware the same ratio as the iPhone 5.
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You'd buy the Mini if you've already invested in the iTunes ecosystem, or if you want access to all of the tablet apps that the iPad does.

This, and also, sound quality is to be desired when using the Nexus 7. If it's Apple standard, you can expect pretty excellent audio quality.
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When has the 13" MBP ever had a dedicated GPU?
Really don't understand when peopler are surprised/disappointed/angry there isn't on on the new model.

It's a completely different case when you have a retina display. I know the 13" MBP has never had a dedicated GPU, but when you're pushing a (normally) 24"+ resolution, I can see why one would be surprised at it lacking this feature.
 
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You'd think Apple would have been innovative here and added a Micro SD slot.... $330 and no memory expansion? This isn't 2010. I have an IPad2 64GB and easily fill it when I go on trips for work or leisure. My $200 Samsung 7" tablet on the other hand travels with several 32GB micro SD cards (that weigh in at roughly $17 each).

It's not uncommon in the market for 7.7" tablets to command a price premium (yes this is technically a 7.9"). The Samsung Tab 7.7 and the Toshiba AT270 both sell north of $400. Mind you both of them have Super AMOLED+ screens, HDMI out, Micro SD slots etc.

Apple could have kicked Google (Nexus 7) and Kindle (Fire HD), and Kobo (Arc) where it hurts as none of those have a Micro SD slot. The Nook HD on the other hand is going to make the IPad Mini look silly... Micro SD slot, 1440x900 resolution and HDMI out and it's only 3 Grams heavier than the IPad Mini. Oh, and it's $130 cheaper...
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You'd think Apple would have been innovative here and added a Micro SD slot.... $330 and no memory expansion? This isn't 2010. I have an IPad2 64GB and easily fill it when I go on trips for work or leisure. My $200 Samsung 7" tablet on the other hand travels with several 32GB micro SD cards (that weigh in at roughly $17 each).
It's not uncommon in the market for 7.7" tablets to command a price premium (yes this is technically a 7.9"). The Samsung Tab 7.7 and the Toshiba AT270 both sell north of $400. Mind you both of them have Super AMOLED+ screens, HDMI out, Micro SD slots etc.
Apple could have kicked Google (Nexus 7) and Kindle (Fire HD), and Kobo (Arc) where it hurts as none of those have a Micro SD slot. The Nook HD on the other hand is going to make the IPad Mini look silly... Micro SD slot, 1440x900 resolution and HDMI out and it's only 3 Grams heavier than the IPad Mini. Oh, and it's $130 cheaper...
It's apple, would they ever DREAM of adding a micro SD slot? A way for customers to improve their product WITHOUT giving apple money? As if.
Apple has gone seriously down hill since Tim Cook has had the helm, and i wish i could say it was a shame, however it really isn't. It allows the others to catch up, and in some cases just out perform apple. This ipad mini has added nothing new to the market like the Ipad, Iphone and ipod touch did. It seems a little 'un apple-esque' this product.
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