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If it were me I would go with a 420mm rad on top and 240/280 on bottom.

Rads with 140mm fans are fine but your selection of good quality fans are much smaller and knowing what good 140mm fan to get it important. The 140mm fans that I use are the 140mm Bgears B-blaster 140 and have very good static pressure (around 3.5). I like them very much since they are inexpensive and can really move a lot of air. 2 other very great 140mm fans for water cooling would be the Akasa Viper/apache fans and Noiseblockers.

360-60mm Rads are fine at the top on the 810 and don't interfere with I/O panels, EPS plugs and top heatsinks for around 98% of motherboards. A 420-60mm thick however is a different story. I run a 420-60mm thick rad on top in my Switch 810 in push/pull and had to do some work to get it up there but the end results was so worth it. The problem with 420's in the switch is that the fan hole spacing on the rad does not line up with the holes on the case (with the exception with the Black Ice 420's) so you will have to drill a few holes in order to mount the rad. Some other issues you might have with 60mm thick 420 rad would be plugging in the EPS plug on the top with some motherboards and many people have got around this is to take a dremel and cut into he fan shroud to get the clearance to plug the EPS in. I have heard no issues with clearance problems with the Aphacool XT45 420mm and all you need to do is drill the extra holes and you are good to go

A 280mm on the bottom will require more extensive work then the 420 and can cause problems with being able to plug in your PSU cables. I have seen ppl put 280's on the bottom.

I would check out some of the build logs that are in our Switch 810 club here... http://www.overclock.net/t/1209048/official-nzxt-switch-810-thread
post #22 of 88
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I apologize to everybody for not replying for such an extended period of time, I've been quite busy lately but I'm back; rest assured I have not forgotten about this project.

In terms of components, my selection remains the same, though I have decided I'm going to avoid doing any modding towards the case in order to fit something otherwise too large. I'm assuming this means I will not be able to fit a 280mm radiator on the bottom. I would also prefer to keep the optical drive at the designated top bay, so I'm also predicting that will prevent me from installing a 420mm or 360mm radiator on the top. Based on the details NostraD provided, the top radiator will have to be no more than 45mm thick so it doesn't interfere with the motherboard.

Is all that information correct? I'm also uncertain about which size would be preferable for the top, a 240mm or a 280mm radiator.

Just out of curiosity, would you guys have a rough estimate of what load temperatures I could expect with all of this?

Another question, when would be the best time to order all of my parts? I was thinking of shortly after Christmas. I'm in no big rush to complete this project but I definitely want to begin before winter's over. Would it be worth it to wait for a new series of processors/graphics cards to be released or will that not occur for a while?

Again, I can't thank you guys enough for the help, I'd be completely lost without it.
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Thus far I'm looking at: the (...) Maelstrom 5 1/4" Dual Bay Reservoir with pre-installed MCP35X pump.

I am getting both the Maelstrom and the MCP35X but not together. I don't like a pump attached to the reservoir. The more securely the pump is installed, the more it vibrates and the more noise it makes. I am going to let the pump hang in mid-air holding up by the two hoses into it. That way, it is well decoupled and more quiet.

Just what I do, your mileage may vary.

Cheers cheers.gif
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I am getting both the Maelstrom and the MCP35X but not together. I don't like a pump attached to the reservoir. The more securely the pump is installed, the more it vibrates and the more noise it makes. I am going to let the pump hang in mid-air holding up by the two hoses into it. That way, it is well decoupled and more quiet.
Just what I do, your mileage may vary.
Cheers cheers.gif

lust make absolutely sure that your fittings are extemely secure... i know another guy that did this, and it pulled one of his tubes out of his fitting... if you are going to make your pump "free hanging" then i majorly sugest that you build some kind of harness or holder for it... the best thing to do IMO is to get the MCP35X Heat sink as it has ruber stands and is rather quite smile.gif
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lust make absolutely sure that your fittings are extemely secure... i know another guy that did this, and it pulled one of his tubes out of his fitting... if you are going to make your pump "free hanging" then i majorly sugest that you build some kind of harness or holder for it... the best thing to do IMO is to get the MCP35X Heat sink as it has ruber stands and is rather quite smile.gif

Noise isn't much of a problem for me but I'm not quite sure to expect in terms of loudness. Just trying to get everything which I mentioned in my last post sorted out before I worry about minor issues, although I'll definitely keep this is mind.
post #26 of 88
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Hate to bump my own thread once more but just want to reassure nobody had missed my prior posts. I'll try to make the questions I'm asking as brief as possible without sacrificing important details.

1. Am I limited to (without doing any modding to the Switch 810 and allowing space for my optical drive on the top bay) a 45mm thick 280mm radiator on the top of the case and a 60mm thick 240mm radiator on the bottom?

2. I've heard a pull configuration yields great results without directing dust directly into the radiator, while I've also heard contradictory statements claiming a push or push/pull configuration is superior; has this topic been set in stone or do results vary depending on the situation at hand?

3. Would anybody have a rough, general estimate of what load temperatures I could expect by using an arrangement similar to question one in a 17 °C room?

4. I'm assuming Boxing Day sales are the best time to buy computer components, is that correct?

Thanks again guys, all your replies are appreciated.
post #27 of 88
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Hate to bump my own thread once more but just want to reassure nobody had missed my prior posts. I'll try to make the questions I'm asking as brief as possible without sacrificing important details.
1. Am I limited to (without doing any modding to the Switch 810 and allowing space for my optical drive on the top bay) a 45mm thick 280mm radiator on the top of the case and a 60mm thick 240mm radiator on the bottom?
2. I've heard a pull configuration yields great results without directing dust directly into the radiator, while I've also heard contradictory statements claiming a push or push/pull configuration is superior; has this topic been set in stone or do results vary depending on the situation at hand?
3. Would anybody have a rough, general estimate of what load temperatures I could expect by using an arrangement similar to question one in a 17 °C room?
4. I'm assuming Boxing Day sales are the best time to buy computer components, is that correct?
Thanks again guys, all your replies are appreciated.

1. Depends on PSU. I am using an ST-1500 from silverstone and I wouldn't be able to put a 240 on the floor at all. On top, it depends on your fan configuration.

2. Go check out Martin's Liquid Lab or Skinnee's... any config you can think of, they have tested.

3. Depends on your voltage, clocks, pump(s), fan and rad config.

4. I haven't really seen that many sales on liquid cooling products ever... Sorry, no input here.
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2. Doesn't matter if you pull or push air in your rad. If it's not filtered, your rad will get dusty over time.
You can either put on filters which can restrict your air flow, or dust it off when required.
Your rad will not be as effective when the fins are covered with dust and they are a PITA to clean up.
We have two cats and a dog so I am a filter freak.
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Originally Posted by Kavanaughty View Post

Hate to bump my own thread once more but just want to reassure nobody had missed my prior posts. I'll try to make the questions I'm asking as brief as possible without sacrificing important details.
1. Am I limited to (without doing any modding to the Switch 810 and allowing space for my optical drive on the top bay) a 45mm thick 280mm radiator on the top of the case and a 60mm thick 240mm radiator on the bottom?
2. I've heard a pull configuration yields great results without directing dust directly into the radiator, while I've also heard contradictory statements claiming a push or push/pull configuration is superior; has this topic been set in stone or do results vary depending on the situation at hand?
3. Would anybody have a rough, general estimate of what load temperatures I could expect by using an arrangement similar to question one in a 17 °C room?
4. I'm assuming Boxing Day sales are the best time to buy computer components, is that correct?
Thanks again guys, all your replies are appreciated.

1)that ould be about your max, but you would probably see better results from a thin 360 uptop tbh (and that would only take off 1 bay)

2) there is nothing you can do for dust except have decent posative preasure and use filters (and i generaly recomend against the later)... unless using very low speed fans, filters will decrease performance (sometimes by a decent bit) and can also create extra noise (though this is rare)... if you go with filters i would personaly go high flow that way you can keep the performance hit to a minimum and you wont have to clean your rads as often... performance wise, push or pull depends on teh fan... most fans now a days are designed to only have good static preasure in push (as it is hard to do both), so that is what is generaly perfered, but the difference in real life will be minimal on 90% of fans

3) too many variables we dont know yet... if you give us a TPD of the loop, a flow rate, and the rads you are using i can get you a very rough estimate though

4) black friday tends to be the best as stores will have clearance on all items (like the PPC 9% off or what ever it was that i took advantage of this year tongue.gif)
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post #30 of 88
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Many thanks guys. I believe I'll follow through and purchase a 60mm thick 240mm radiator for the bottom (since that will be the maximum length I could use without interfering with the PSU) as well as a 45mm thick 280mm radiator for the top (with a dual bay reservoir, a fan controller and an optical drive, I'm gonna need all my bays available). I'll have to decide which models I'll want and which fan configurations would work best. With what PepeLapiu said regarding the noise, I've become a little hesitant on buying a dual bay reservoir so that could change.

Once Boxing Day sales arrive I'll try to buy all that I can. I should have everything I need well before spring and I may do a build log so I'll let you guys know. Thanks again for the wonderful support, you truly are good Samaritans.
Edited by Kavanaughty - 12/17/12 at 2:14pm
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