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Hi.

This month my rig is making his second anniversary, and i'm thinking it deserves some new parts.

As i'm a fps player, CS:GO / BF3 mostly and some RPG's like Skyrim, i'm experiencing some slowdowns... wich should not be happening with my rig.

These are the main parts:

Phenom II X6 1055T @4.03 /1.49v - NB @2870/1.36v
ASUS Crosshair FORMULA IV
CrossFirex 6850 @940/1150
8GB DDR3 CORSAIR @1525mhz XMS3


I cannot play BF3 above 60fps with this spec and for me, something is wrong.

I'v asked in this forum, and others too if my CPU could be bottlenecking my gpu's, some people say it does, some not.
Playing BF3 my CPU get's to 75-90% of usage in all cores and GPU stays at 60-75% mostly.

The main question is, IF i change to a middle-high end motherboard and Ivy 3770K, i'll have a better fps and smooth gameplay?

Thanks,

Carlos H. Ferrari
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@4.0 ghz, you should be good...have you check your cpu load if they doing less than you gpu?
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What is your budget? You don't need a 3770k for gaming, a used 2500k would be more then enough and would leave you money for another upgrade. Or just OC that cpu like Raptor suggest ( you have a decent cooler correct? If not it's time to get one) and instead of changing platform just get a 7870 or something like that. If you can sell you 6850's you could always grab a 7950 or something similar.
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honestly, the only thing I can suggest is maybe more ram, a better gpu, or a better cpu cooler? other than that your sig still looks great.

what settings do you play bf3 on?
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I was playing CS:GO on a 4.0 X6 at work without any issues at all at 1080p, first with 2xGTX260 then with a 6950. If you have slowdowns in that game, then something is wrong. I moved to a 3570K at *stockish* 4.0 and really there is no difference in CS:GO, but it uses a fraction of the power the X6 did.

I don't play BF3 but there were no games I play that the 4.0 X6 could not run at 1080p single monitor. I just didn't like the power use and the Microcenter deal was too good to pass up.

3570 $189 from microcenter, and they give $50 off any Z77. The $50 makes it beat a 2500K combo and it's faster anyway at lower clocks.

Then your 6850 will probably be the weak point.
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@4.0 ghz, you should be good...have you check your cpu load if they doing less than you gpu?

CPU load is doing more than GPU... but it never goes 99% when crossfireX

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Originally Posted by Frank33 View Post

What is your budget? You don't need a 3770k for gaming, a used 2500k would be more then enough and would leave you money for another upgrade. Or just OC that cpu like Raptor suggest ( you have a decent cooler correct? If not it's time to get one) and instead of changing platform just get a 7870 or something like that. If you can sell you 6850's you could always grab a 7950 or something similar.

The point of a 3770, is buying hardware for at least 2-3 years.

I'm already at 4ghz... i have the budget for 3770 and a $300 MB (900 reais aqui no BRA), my cooler is Antec H20 620, with 2 Viper X Push/pull.

And single 7950 is better than 2 x 6850?

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honestly, the only thing I can suggest is maybe more ram, a better gpu, or a better cpu cooler? other than that your sig still looks great.
what settings do you play bf3 on?

My ram and CPU cooler are OK. The point is the bootleneck of CPU. I can't run a 7950 or 680 if my CPU cannot handle it...
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CPU load is doing more than GPU... but it never goes 99% when crossfireX
The point of a 3770, is buying hardware for at least 2-3 years.
I'm already at 4ghz... i have the budget for 3770 and a $300 MB (900 reais aqui no BRA), my cooler is Antec H20 620, with 2 Viper X Push/pull.
And single 7950 is better than 2 x 6850?

My ram and CPU cooler are OK. The point is the bootleneck of CPU. I can't run a 7950 or 680 if my CPU cannot handle it...

wait for haswell to see what intel offers, or upgrade now if you really want to see a FPS increase.
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if cpu is doing more than gpu then go ahead and upgrade to 3770, kinda odd that your cpu at 4.0 ghz is the bottleneck...no point of getting a high end card atm take care of the bottleneck first...
Edited by Raptorpowa - 10/23/12 at 4:54pm
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if cpu is doing more than gpu then go ahead and upgrade to 3770, kinda odd that your cpu at 4.0 ghz is the bottleneck...no point of getting a high end card atm take care of the bottleneck first...

THIS!
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Originally Posted by Carlos Hilgert Ferrari View Post

CPU load is doing more than GPU... but it never goes 99% when crossfireX
The point of a 3770, is buying hardware for at least 2-3 years.
I'm already at 4ghz... i have the budget for 3770 and a $300 MB (900 reais aqui no BRA), my cooler is Antec H20 620, with 2 Viper X Push/pull.
And single 7950 is better than 2 x 6850?

My ram and CPU cooler are OK. The point is the bootleneck of CPU. I can't run a 7950 or 680 if my CPU cannot handle it...

There is no difference for gaming between a 3750k or a 3700k or a 2500k/2600k, the HT won't gives you any benefits, so both i5 are recommended and are solid cpu that will easily last you 2-3 years or more!. I just checked on the *mercadolivre* and you can find some used 2500k for less then 500$ Reais, that would leave you 400$ Reais to grab a decent 1155 board.
Bench of 2500k vs 3750k
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=701

Also from the best site i know from Brasil (terabyteshop.com.br) a new 3770k cost $975,26 a vista... cpu only
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