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post #51 of 61
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Originally Posted by tp4tissue View Post

It's not just the D2FC they changed, they are also using different switches for the DPI switch, application switch buttons.
I think EVERYTHING used to be OMRON, because they make those little flat round button switches too, according to their JP website.
But I think the ONLY omron switches left in the newest iteration is the Left and Right click... mad.gifmad.gif Sad day indeed.

What's so sad about it?

I mean, you only noticed they were not Omron when you actually went and opened the mouse.
post #52 of 61
It's funny to see peoples reactions, how a well-established perception of a good mouse changes, as if suddenly the mouse you're holding was worse than yesterday, making you stop trusting your mouse less, getting less frags, flags, apples, whatever games you are playing. Personally, I've never cared that much about the switch manufacturer, more about the feeling and even then it hasn't been a top priority-- but I do understand that for some people it matters so much that can be totally put off by that . Hell, I even like the AM's switches, even though everyone says they are super stiff. They feel pretty much the same as my Abyssus' switches in terms of hardness, AM's are obviously the harder ones. And then when everyone says that they are super stiff, you start believing that more than your own fingers and they start to feel much stiffer. And I'm not saying that their switches are not stiff, I can't know if someones AM actually has much stiffer switches than mine, as there are obviously different variables in manufacturing and so all the batches aren't alike. I've had two Deathadders, the first one's scroll wheel broke and I got another one in replacement. I did feel that there was a slight difference in the scroll wheel, it the scrolling was a bit harder.

But yeah, I can confirm with a picture that they've changed the switches (well, at least with the case of the scroll wheel switch. I didn't take any pictures of the sidebuttons, but I remember they are the same Kailh(?) switches that the scroll wheel uses.) I took this pic about a month ago of my G400 (which I bought in April) when I changed the cord:



And of course now people will say that "no wonder the scroll feels so ****ty." I think that's more about the travel distance in this case than it is about the switch. I tried gluing a piece of metal in between the switch and the scroll-holding plastic as a test. It felt totally different, much better, but unfortunately it didn't stay there for long and I didn't bother getting superglue on my fingers again biggrin.gif :

post #53 of 61
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Originally Posted by meih View Post

Hell, I even like the AM's switches, even though everyone says they are super stiff. They feel pretty much the same as my Abyssus' switches in terms of hardness, AM's are obviously the harder ones. And then when everyone says that they are super stiff, you start believing that more than your own fingers and they start to feel much stiffer. And I'm not saying that their switches are not stiff, I can't know if someones AM actually has much stiffer switches than mine, as there are obviously different variables in manufacturing and so all the batches aren't alike.
Don't hate on the Huano switches, they are good switches. They are different than Omrons so what.

People shouldn't be elitists about switches. It is silly.
post #54 of 61
Other than being substantially cheaper, it is indeed pretty subjective.
post #55 of 61
I know my v1 MX518 is scores better quality than the 2 I have since bought. Since that original one I bought is still going strong 6 years later... and the 2 newer models, rubber is peeling off, the mouse feet are a worse design, dunno about switch quality differences.
post #56 of 61
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Originally Posted by tp4tissue View Post

What? Now I totally hate my G500, I didn't know there was rubber dome in it... I'm throwing it away... like right now... mad.gifmad.gif... and ... it's gone...

So you thought it was ok until someone on a forum said it's rubber dome?
post #57 of 61
Think this was sarcasm....
post #58 of 61
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Originally Posted by Faster_is_better View Post

I know my v1 MX518 is scores better quality than the 2 I have since bought. Since that original one I bought is still going strong 6 years later... and the 2 newer models, rubber is peeling off, the mouse feet are a worse design, dunno about switch quality differences.

I know this post is ages old bnut its just true.
WHen my old mx518 which served me for YEARS had its cable broken because oif my ****ty treatment and I replaced with with a mx518 refresh, everythign was different..
the 200 additional DPI are really pointless to begin with, the feet cause a LOT more friction resulting in much worse fine movement especially for someone used to the old ones...
the swtiches also feel completely different.. my old one felt really awesome, clicky, the clicking travel distance was much shorter than in the new one (maybe due to long time use).
the coating - when I directly compare them - seems much grippier on the old one as well... even though that one has all kidns of "bruises" already biggrin.gif
they really dropped in terms of quality.. I do not udnerstand the decision behind hte mouse feet replacement...
the best decision in terms of gliding would have been to put 4 circle feet on it instead of 5 small ovals I think.
post #59 of 61
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Originally Posted by jayfkay View Post

I know this post is ages old bnut its just true.
WHen my old mx518 which served me for YEARS had its cable broken because oif my ****ty treatment and I replaced with with a mx518 refresh, everythign was different..
the 200 additional DPI are really pointless to begin with, the feet cause a LOT more friction resulting in much worse fine movement especially for someone used to the old ones...
the swtiches also feel completely different.. my old one felt really awesome, clicky, the clicking travel distance was much shorter than in the new one (maybe due to long time use).
the coating - when I directly compare them - seems much grippier on the old one as well... even though that one has all kidns of "bruises" already biggrin.gif
they really dropped in terms of quality.. I do not udnerstand the decision behind hte mouse feet replacement...
the best decision in terms of gliding would have been to put 4 circle feet on it instead of 5 small ovals I think.

Nothing really stopping you from using IME 3.0/1.1 feet on it. That's what I've done for all my mice.
post #60 of 61
Thread Starter 
I absolutely FELT that the middle click was different right form the start, and the same goes for the side buttons.. because I had the G400 side by side with my MX518 "pre-usa-recession"

Anyone claims that the feel only changed "after" i opened the mouse is untrue... the difference is very noticeable..

The omron has a very good "snap" while the off-brand has longer actuation and goes "ribbit, ribbit" vs "click, click omron"
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