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The promise of the Surface was that it could deliver a best-in-class tablet experience, but then transform into the PC you needed when heavier lifting was required. Instead of putting down my tablet and picking up my laptop, I would just snap on my keyboard and get my work done. But that's not what the Surface offers, at least not in my experience. It does the job of a tablet and the job of a laptop half as well as other devices on the market, and it often makes that job harder, not easier. Instead of being a no-compromise device, it often feels like a more-compromise one.

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Most of what I'm seeing (from this review and other reviews, and some of the others are much more positive), is that it's got some lag every now and then which can probably be fixed with an update or two (hopefully), and that the app store is empty. Those are the two major problems, both of which will be fixed in time.
Edited by The Conman - 10/23/12 at 9:00pm
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I feel like the author is a little biased here...
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On the left side is a set of volume rockers and a headphone jack, while the right side boasts a USB jack, Micro HDMI port, and the odd and difficult to use proprietary power jack. A microSDXC slot hides underneath the kickstand. I mean, it's really hidden; there's not even a little icon to indicate where it is.

Its a proprietary connector, and who cares that the card slot isn't indicated, it protrudes from the body, is that not enough?
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Additionally, multitouch worked well on the display, though it's disappointing that the Surface only does five-point touch when competition like the iPad can handle 11 at a time.

Why have that needless comparison....the touch sensors can usually handle 10+ points but its software limited to 5. I've never used more than 2 on my tablet.

The meat of the review isn't that bad but the bolded tidbits make it seem like a bad device.
    
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I have to agree that the overall attitude makes the writer comes off as if he was going into this negatively. He also went into a lot of details there were by and large completely pointless for end consumers and enthusiasts alike.
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The author is just an anti MS apple guy. For example, he did not even mention a single word about its USB compatibility with current USB devices, which is a great feature of Windows RT, and no single paragraph about Office, which is another key feature that makes this tablet a Windows tablet.
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He also didn't talk about the strength of the device. I saw on another review, from CBS (seriously?) that talked about the strength of the device and how when she dropped it, it didn't even get scratched. The Verge was just like, yeah it's made out of this Magnesium and Aluminum material Microsoft calls VaporMg, fin. And like you said, he didn't even talk about the USB port.
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From the moment it was shown, I've always felt the ARM version would've been better served being delayed slightly to incorporate Qualcomm's S4 Pro, Samsung's quad Exynos 5 series or another A15 SoC.

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I have to agree that the overall attitude makes the writer comes off as if he was going into this negatively.

That's because he is.

One need only look at his track record to see this isn't a casual slight on my part. Joshua Topolsky is one of the most unabashed Apple fans you'll find among tech reviewers. That, in and of itself, isn't a bad trait except when it clearly clouds your objectivity towards reviewing non-Apple phones, laptops and so on. Android and Windows devices have often been downplayed and his odd years-long aversion to Windows OS doesn't help. Topolsky, Nilay Patel, Joanna Stern (to a lesser extent than the rest from what I recall) and others who left Engadget to establish The Verge, are largely why Engadget had had an even greater pro-Apple skew than it currently does.

A hallmark of reviewers who are unable to mitigate their bias as best as possible is how they'll highlight relatively inconsequential elements of a product and devote extended time towards those "issues" to, intentionally or not, paint it in an often unfairly negative light, or at least downplay its qualities. You'll notice the opposite tends to hold true when it's a product they are highly partial to. Another example of this would be a reviewer such as Tom Logan of Overclock3D. While he shouldn't be taken seriously for data-specific evaluations, many OCN members hold him in very high regard - not only the Noctua owners.
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I have decided that The Verge is very PRO Apple and Apple can do no wrong.

I was shocked that they gave the Nexus 7 such a high rating actually. I feel like they missed alot on the review of the surface. for instance, the screen is not needed/meant to have your fingers all over it all the time like the ipad...it has a better way to type and be productive on it...unlike the ipad....

The amount of usefulness is much higher than the ipad for the simple fact that it is goign to be easier to type on and multi task.

This is a product that blurs the lines between laptop and tablet while the ipad blurs the lines between iphone and....bigger iphone with no phone...

edit: please note that I have an ipad and iphone, just stating what I think, not a hater....
Edited by madbrayniak - 10/25/12 at 12:10pm
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These guys are former Engadget writers. They are, and will be Apple fanboys.
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Wow...well that was a biased review. He didn't even give it a chance...
    
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Taking into account im really looking into getting one of these, I'm glad im on these forums. Im not really familiar with alot of guys/girls that do alot of tech reviews to realize is one if pro apple or not. So im glad its not a negative review of a bad product, just a negative review because its not apple. Thank guys biggrin.gif
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