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Several of the UAC's are persistent, only changeable through the registry editor. They have also been integrated to the level that they cause loss of some functions if disabled.

Fully disabling UAC in W7 and Vista would require a registry edit as well. You're going to have to show me proof of your second claims...
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Completely disagree with you here mate, the RTM build was a complete abomination, its compatibility was pretty much non existent (drivers).

XP was diabolical on release and look how well that flourished.

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People need to give Windows 8 some time to mature before they start ripping off their pants and stamping on them in a tantrum.

No one ever seems to recall how disastrous XP was, and yet they claim Vista was a total failure. Vista was more stable at release, than XP was at release.

It's amazing how blinkered people are.

Give Windows 8 some time and I bet it will be God's gift to operating systems and people will pretend like they never hated it, much like people do with XP.
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Several of the UAC's are persistent, only changeable through the registry editor. They have also been integrated to the level that they cause loss of some functions if disabled.

Fully disabling UAC in W7 and Vista would require a registry edit as well. You're going to have to show me proof of your second claims...

Disabling UAC was not necessary through registry on W7/Vista, one simply turned it off under User Account. He is talking about needing to make changes to Local Policies to get that same functionality the slider used to bring a user in Windows 7.

In addition to that, it breaks a few features in MetroUI and it's services, and the TileOS programs.

Edit - Forgot Screenshot:


Example TileOS / MetroUI Functionality Lost:

Edited by RagingCain - 10/23/12 at 11:37pm
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And I've said this before, the major driving reason behind not upgrading to Windows 8 is that companies just upgraded or are still in the middle of upgrading to Windows 7. As long as it still runs all their programs perfectly fine, and the systems are secure, they will not bother upgrading, as it's an unnecessary expenditure.
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XP was diabolical on release and look how well that flourished.
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People need to give Windows 8 some time to mature before they start ripping off their pants and stamping on them in a tantrum.
No one ever seems to recall how disastrous XP was, and yet they claim Vista was a total failure. Vista was more stable at release, than XP was at release.
It's amazing how blinkered people are.
Give Windows 8 some time and I bet it will be God's gift to operating systems and people will pretend like they never hated it, much like people do with XP.

That's the thing lol, I was too young and not really into computers that way (building my own PCs, etc) when the whole XP launch happened, the Vista release was my 1st true OS launch that I experienced 1st hand (I even tried one of the Longhorn beta builds lol), so I can't really comment on XP as a OS at release.

I agree though, It'll take some time before people start seeing how much Windows 8 is better than 7, everything took a step forward.
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I've been using Windows 8 Pro Preview for a couple weeks now.

The Start button is basically a weak splash page with force fed apps. The 'Start' page should have easier to reach, programs, control panel & system settings. In fact the Start page should have everything the Start button on Windows 7 has. Performance gain feel barely noticeable to me. Some programs seem to open quicker & boot up time is shaved a bit.

However I'm backing up hard drive as I type this to prepare a format and return to Windows 7. I was open to Windows 8 but cannot wrap myself around it for many reasons. I feel it could be just my preferences where others might find this appealing.

Obviously at first there is a learning curve with any new product. However I find myself frustrated still when I cannot get around as easy. The more sophisticated controls are hidden from the average user. I guess it's Microsoft's way to dumb down computing and keep sensitive files from being inadvertently deleted.

I think back when I was using XP and heard what Vista was like for a lot of users so I held off. When Windows 7 came out I was still reluctant for a bit until others who took the plunge confirmed it was everything Vista should have been. I'm sitting out Windows 8 in hopes that Windows 9 will be what Windows 8 should be now. At least I tried this time where with Vista I never even loaded it. redface.gif
     
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I've been using Windows 8 Pro Preview for a couple weeks now.

The Start button is basically a weak splash page with force fed apps. The 'Start' page should have easier to reach, programs, control panel & system settings. In fact the Start page should have everything the Start button on Windows 7 has. Performance gain feel barely noticeable to me. Some programs seem to open quicker & boot up time is shaved a bit.

However I'm backing up hard drive as I type this to prepare a format and return to Windows 7. I was open to Windows 8 but cannot wrap myself around it for many reasons. I feel it could be just my preferences where others might find this appealing.

Obviously at first there is a learning curve with any new product. However I find myself frustrated still when I cannot get around as easy. The more sophisticated controls are hidden from the average user. I guess it's Microsoft's way to dumb down computing and keep sensitive files from being inadvertently deleted.

I think back when I was using XP and heard what Vista was like for a lot of users so I held off. When Windows 7 came out I was still reluctant for a bit until others who took the plunge confirmed it was everything Vista should have been. I'm sitting out Windows 8 in hopes that Windows 9 will be what Windows 8 should be now. At least I tried this time where with Vista I never even loaded it. redface.gif

It probably just takes time. I tell you one thing I do like, the ribbon command allowing for CMD's to be started where I am browsing, even as Admin, you got to like that wink.gif
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I was using Vista from beta and while it had its issues, it was just as if not more usable for me, Metro really does put a damper on it for me.

Completely disagree with you here mate, the RTM build was a complete abomination, its compatibility was pretty much non existent (drivers).

I was using it from beta on a single core Athlon XP @ 2Ghz with 1GB RAM as a daily driver OS, only went back to XP once and I ended up regretting it, there was driver issues but I never had compatibility issues.
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People need to give Windows 8 some time to mature before they start ripping off their pants and stamping on them in a tantrum.

Most of the problem isn't the same as those were, there was instability on release but with 8 it's more due to features, short of MS removing and fixing them in SP1...You get my point.
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Several of the UAC's are persistent, only changeable through the registry editor. They have also been integrated to the level that they cause loss of some functions if disabled.

Fully disabling UAC in W7 and Vista would require a registry edit as well. You're going to have to show me proof of your second claims...

Disabling UAC was not necessary through registry on W7/Vista, one simply turned it off under User Account. He is talking about needing to make changes to Local Policies to get that same functionality the slider used to bring a user in Windows 7.

In addition to that, it breaks a few features in MetroUI and it's services, and the TileOS programs.

Edit - Forgot Screenshot:


Example TileOS / MetroUI Functionality Lost:

It's funny because that's proof that MS are doing this as an artificial limitation, you'd think an actual error would pop up rather than "UAC is disabled". Considering MS actually programmed UAC originally to be annoying too, I wouldn't put it past them to code it to say that whether it actually needs UAC or not.
    
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Nobody on computers cares about system compitable with phones and stuff... you don't run android on your desktop.
Also the windows row ... Good (XP) - Crap (Vista) - Good (W7) - Crap (W8)... biggrin.gif Can't wait for W9
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Here's another example:



Click continue...:



Keyword in this pic:




Then security tab is confusing cuz most of the buttons are greyed out:



Dug around in here for a minute, found my access credentials deep in the menu:




at which point it specifically states that I'm taking control of the object, (probably for liability purposes), and finally an error on applying security changes to several of the files in the folder:



before I finally gained access. Can't seem to reproduce it though cause now cause it just lets me in headscratch.gif
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