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I've been using an old IBM membrane keyboard forever (KB-7953). I love the shape of the keyboard and the angle of the keys, but it's very old and worn out. I would like to find a mechanical keyboard with similar dimensions/design as a replacement.

Here are a couple pics that show the height of the keyboard and the angle of the keys: http://imgur.com/a/QFkoI

The main difference that I have found between my keyboard and all of the mechanical keyboards I have tested is the height of the keyboard. As you can see in the pics, mine tapers down to less than a penny tall at it lowest point. Most mechanical keyboards seem to be much taller and this puts a fair bit of strain on my hands/wrists. Are there any "low-rise" mechanical keyboards, for lack of a better term?
Edited by FingerTrippin - 10/24/12 at 1:42am
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The main difference that I have found between my keyboard and all of the mechanical keyboards I have tested is the height of the keyboard. As you can see in the pics, mine tapers down to less than a penny tall at it lowest point. Most mechanical keyboards seem to be much taller and this puts a fair bit of strain on my hands/wrists. Are there any "low-rise" mechanical keyboards, for lack of a better term?

Maybe using a wrist rest might get your hands up higher to make the taller mechanical keyboard feel like a low-rise?
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Maybe using a wrist rest might get your hands up higher to make the taller mechanical keyboard feel like a low-rise?

Thanks for the suggestion. I have tried a wrist rest with a mechanical keyboard and I found it very uncomfortable. I prefer to have the base of my wrist and entire forearm flat against my desk. The added height of the mech KBs that I've tried meant that I had to arch my hand up into a fairly unnatural position in order to keep my forearm in contact with the desk.
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My IBM Model M has a similar profile. I don't know if when you were thinking mechanical you were thinking Cherry switches, but the buckling springs on my Model M provide a typing experience as good, if not better than, my RK9000 with blues.

You can find Model Ms in great condition on ebay for relatively cheap prices. I got my 89 in box and plastic wrap with a ps2 cable for about $40.
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Read this and decided to do your penny measurement of my Quickfire Rapid. The rapid is taller, even at the lowest point on the keyboard. However, it does have very thick rubber anti slip pads on the bottom. So, if you know some one close to you or maybe a store that carries the Quickfire near you. Maybe you can take a penny, to the keyboard. See its current height, then remove the anti slip pads and compare the height again. Might be very close. Then to prevent sliding, just find thinner rubber pads to replace the originals with. There are many options for replacements.
As for other keyboards, really not sure. This is a niche keyboard, but maybe Corsiar's Vengeance K60? Just may provide the height your looking for?



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+1 on the Model M. Can't go wrong with a buckling spring board.

You can get a new one from Unicomp for $79.00. This one looks closest to what you're looking for:

Black w. Grey keys: http://pckeyboard.com/page/UKBD/UB40P4A

Beige: http://pckeyboard.com/page/UKBD/UNI0P4A
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Read this and decided to do your penny measurement of my Quickfire Rapid. The rapid is taller, even at the lowest point on the keyboard. However, it does have very thick rubber anti slip pads on the bottom. So, if you know some one close to you or maybe a store that carries the Quickfire near you. Maybe you can take a penny, to the keyboard. See its current height, then remove the anti slip pads and compare the height again. Might be very close. Then to prevent sliding, just find thinner rubber pads to replace the originals with. There are many options for replacements.
As for other keyboards, really not sure. This is a niche keyboard, but maybe Corsiar's Vengeance K60? Just may provide the height your looking for?

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I considered the K60, and it looks perfect actually, but it has a very serious problem which causes it to occasionally glitch out and repeat keys, as if the key is stuck down. If Corsair would release a firmware fix (not sure that's even possible), I would probably buy the K60.

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+1 on the Model M. Can't go wrong with a buckling spring board.
You can get a new one from Unicomp for $79.00. This one looks closest to what you're looking for:
Black w. Grey keys: http://pckeyboard.com/page/UKBD/UB40P4A
Beige: http://pckeyboard.com/page/UKBD/UNI0P4A

Thanks to both of you who suggested Model M. I don't like the heavy MX black switch, so I'm thinking a buckling spring might require too much activation force for me. But the design of that Unicomp KB does seem to fit the bill.
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Unfortunately most of the tenkeyless boards will have pretty much the same manufacture or close to same OEM. So, whether its a Quickfire, Rosewill or Filco. They will be about the same height. As for the Ducky keyboards, not sure on heights of them. Might be some measurements of them in one of the many review threads of them on this site.
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I considered the K60, and it looks perfect actually, but it has a very serious problem which causes it to occasionally glitch out and repeat keys, as if the key is stuck down. If Corsair would release a firmware fix (not sure that's even possible), I would probably buy the K60.
Thanks to both of you who suggested Model M. I don't like the heavy MX black switch, so I'm thinking a buckling spring might require too much activation force for me. But the design of that Unicomp KB does seem to fit the bill.

MX Blacks suck IMO, and to me they feel slightly heavier than buckling springs. Buckling springs have a completely different feel than any of the Cherry switches... and despite being a higher forced switch, I could almost guarantee that you would enjoy typing on a buckling spring board.

This'll help a little:

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Seconding the thoughts about black switches. I had a Ducky with blacks, and I hated those. Despite having similarly high actuation force, buckling springs feel nothing like blacks, and don't cause the same fatigue. In fact, I get far more fatigue typing on my laptop keyboard because I always end up bottoming out.
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