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You know what? Agreed. It's pretty blatant monopolist tactic to break things before you sell them.
On the other hand, smart shopping goes a long way to alleviate these effects...

Most people don't smart shop, everyone on this forum is pretty much in the minority.


But yeah, I'm sure while most of us here will have the correct boards but we'll have tons of friends, neighbors, future clients, buy PC's then bring them to us and we'll basically almost always be forced to swap out the mobo. :/ Not that that's not always the case now but more so since OC'ing and certain features there will still in a handful of OEM boards where we could keep the board and still improve performance.
Edited by Junkboy - 10/25/12 at 8:45pm
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Someone out there's gotta know how to re-fit these things. Speak up if you have some ideas...
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So Intel is scarred of AMD now? I thought It was the other way around or something.

Not even close. There is just no competition and I doubt Steamroller with its Bulldozer background will be able to catch up with Hasewell, good for AMD they went lucky this round in their GPU division, If they didn't AMD would be a history...
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Pure speculation but basing off the P67->Z68->Z77 I imagine Haswell will be more or less the same. It will start with Z87 and when the die shrink hits Z97 will release. Substitute Z for B and H versions. Not sure what the Q letter will have. I assume B is replacing P.

I almost blew my brains out trying to comprehend that....

Seriously though Intel needs to stop all the 5 million chipsets per socket.
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I almost blew my brains out trying to comprehend that....
Seriously though Intel needs to stop all the 5 million chipsets per socket.

+1
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Z97 will almost definitely be Broadwell only, and not Haswell compatible.

unless they change sockets or memory type (DDR3>DDR4) i doubt that. itll be just like SB/IB all the chipsets between h61-z77 are compatible (with bios update) between them and with broadwell being a die shrink of haswell theres no reason to believe the trend wont remain the same.
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unless they change sockets or memory type (DDR3>DDR4) i doubt that. itll be just like SB/IB all the chipsets between h61-z77 are compatible (with bios update) between them and with broadwell being a die shrink of haswell theres no reason to believe the trend wont remain the same.

Broadwell will get DDR4, and is also rumoured to have the southbridge integrated onto the chip. DDR4 might not break compatibility if it includes a DDR3 controller, but the integrated southbridge will. Knowing Intel, they will most likely not put a legacy DDR3 controller on Broadwell.
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Not that it matters in terms of which path you take. Bloomfield still offers better performance than any AMD platform and its four years old.

I never understood the rationale that because something new is out means your current is obsolete. People only go to a lesser performing platform because it makes them feel less insecure about their purchase.
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Broadwell will get DDR4, and is also rumoured to have the southbridge integrated onto the chip. DDR4 might not break compatibility if it includes a DDR3 controller, but the integrated southbridge will. Knowing Intel, they will most likely not put a legacy DDR3 controller on Broadwell.

I thought they were moving to 1150 anyway.
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