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post #11 of 182
No where did the guys from evga said literally nv pulled the plug on the evbot.
someone knew
old news nothing new here really
post #12 of 182
No wonder they're losing the price/performance race at almost every performance level.. How can nVidia claim they're not competing with AMD?
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Originally Posted by Raven.7 View Post

No wonder they're losing the price/performance race at almost every performance level.. How can nVidia claim they're not competing with AMD?

They are probably referring more of the professional market lines(Tesla/Quadro), which makes them the most money overall I would think. Don't think they were talking about the consumer level gaming cards.
post #14 of 182
Ever since the g92 rebranding, I can't stand nVidia's market practices.
post #15 of 182
Hmmm..... sucks that GPU prices have been creeping upward... but it does make sense though unfortunately.


The R&D on these chips are ballooning due to complexity. Intel does get to charge huge premiums and is able to price differentiation quite well. Nvidia is following this path..... (as do most hardware companies).

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No wonder they're losing the price/performance race at almost every performance level.. How can nVidia claim they're not competing with AMD?
NVIDIA currently owns workstation and HPC markets where virtually the same GPU generates 5-10 times as much profit.
Edited by DuckieHo - 10/24/12 at 8:21am
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Read the EVGA forums, much?
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1755509
A CUSTOMER had to inform them that Nvidia removed the plug so, your information is entirely incorrect.
Only after Jacob + Several other employees of EVGA contacted Nvidia, did they get an official answer. (Several hours later)
Again, #Nvidiafail

I don't know about anyone else - but if I dropped a bunch of money on a 680 classified only too find out it didn't have a EVBot connector..I'd be pretty upset.
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When we started manufacturing AMD boards, Nvidia told us that they will cut our allocation and they did. But they were too dependent on us and came back humbled offering us level playing field.

Is Nvidia really that arrogant. Ridiculous. I may own theirs cards but I cant stand their business practices and outlook as a company.
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Is Nvidia really that arrogant. Ridiculous. I may own theirs cards but I cant stand their business practices and outlook as a company.
Intel has done worse things in the past....
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As somebody who didn't buy a 670 (too expensive, performance isn't all that, masses of OC headroom but the increased clocks make VERY little difference..) and instead chose to get a 7950 there is something to be said for both AMD and nvidia along similar lines. The kinds of people who buy such cards as a 660Ti, 7850, 670, 7950 are going to be enthusiasts and thus pay a premium because they want to OC. AMD / nvidia may make the cards, but the instant you shell out the cash to buy one it then becomes YOUR property, the manufacturer has zero right to dictate to you what you do with it. As such, voltage locking via drivers, not openly offering vBIOS modification utilities is plain wrong. In the case of the latter I'm not saying its AMD or nvidias responsibility to offer such vBIOS tools, but it should be of the manufacturers you purchase the cards from - they have access to the vBIOS mod tools nvidia or AMD use anyway.

Not all of us like to use cumbersome and buggy software to OC our cards, change voltage or tweak fan profiles. I am one of these people, and as a enthusiast who spent a premium for a 7950 TwinFrozr, I'd expect to be given the choice of using either software to OC or to use a included vBIOS utility to change voltage, clockspeeds and fan profiles. Most manufacturers need to stop treating enthusiasts like dirt.
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What about MSI's lightning and Twin Frozr 4GB 680? They both seem to have voltage control built into afterburner....Was MSI not part of this green initiative?
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