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post #751 of 1964
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guys i also got a question, for my pump..is the ek d5 vario (pump only) got the same performance compared to swiftech d5 vario mcp 655?

Same exact pump, just rebranded. A 355 is a 355 a 655 is a 655 a D4 is a D4....
post #752 of 1964
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Originally Posted by Alastair View Post

Yeah like that. Is there any modding I have to do in order to do that?

The bottom pedestal needs to be removed by unscrewing it to secure the rad to the chassis but no modding is required.
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post #753 of 1964
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Hey I've been trying to plan a water loop for my Phantom 820 and I appreciate you posting this picture. Do you have the pump/res in the 5.25" bays? Is it something like this?
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_367&products_id=36766
I definetly want a bit of overkill on rads so I think something like that would be the best solution for a res/pump. Am I right? I'm going to hopefully have a top 360mm, bottom 240mm, and a front 240mm rad in the case. This is my first water loop so I just want to be sure on my setup before I start purchasing all of the components.
Here is my list so far. Let me know what you think.
Alphacool Repack - Dual Laing D5 - Dual 5.25 Bay Station Incl. 1x Alphacool VPP655 - $173
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_367&products_id=36766
EK Supremacy - Acetal CPU Water Block - $77
http://www.ekwb.com/shop/blocks/cpu-blocks/ek-supremacy-acetal.html
(2x) Alphacool NexXxoS ATXP ATI 7970/50 Series V2 - Polished Stainless Steel - Black - $208
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_971_240_580&products_id=36088
(2x) Alphacool NexXxoS ATXP Back Plate - ATI 7970/50 - Black $42
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_971_1018_1042&products_id=36087
Alphacool NexXxoS ST30 Full Copper 360mm -- $70
http://www.alphacool.com/product_info.php/info/p979_Alphacool-NexXxoS-ST30-Full-Copper-360mm.html
(2x) Alphacool NexXxoS ST30 Full Copper 240mm - $100 http://www.alphacool.com/product_info.php/info/p977_Alphacool-NexXxoS-ST30-Full-Copper-240mm.html
PrimoChill PrimoFlex Advanced LRT Tubing 3/8"ID x 5/8" OD - Bloodshed Red - $25
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17887/ex-tub-1620/PrimoChill_PrimoFlex_Advanced_LRT_Tubing_38ID_x_58_OD_-_10ft_Retail_Pack_-_Bloodshed_Red_PFLEXA10-58-R_w_Free_Sys_Prep.html?tl=g30c99s1615


I'm a little puzzled, or maybe just clueless, but why 30mm rads!

You have 65mm of rad space above the mobo in the 820, about 10mm less in the 630, . . . why not go with a 60mm up top with good top fans, or at least a 45mm, which you could also put 20mm thick fans on the inside with?

While a push pull 30 is better than a push or pull 30, it still isn't equal to a 45 with just 1 set of fans, much less a 60.

You're the one who mentioned overkill . . . somehow that phrase and 30mm rads don't go well in the same thought.

If you put a rad on the bottom, you can't have one in front, and vice versa.

You can however, fit a Monsta 80mm thick 240 on the bottom in push pull and still have some drive space, . . . . . Probably as much rad as you can get there for the least amount of effort to do it.

Alternatively, you could put a 280 on the bottom, if you don't use a long footprint PSU.


But it's your build, and nobody much pays me any mind anyway, so use whatever you want.


Darlene
Edited by IT Diva - 4/12/13 at 10:40am
post #754 of 1964
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Originally Posted by IT Diva View Post

I'm a little puzzled, or maybe just clueless, but why 30mm rads!

You have 65mm of rad space above the mobo in the 820, about 10mm less in the 630, . . . why not go with a 60mm up top with good top fans, or at least a 45mm, which you could also put 20mm thick fans on the inside with?

While a push pull 30 is better than a push or pull 30, it still isn't equal to a 45 with just 1 set of fans, much less a 60.

You're the one who mentioned overkill . . . somehow that phrase and 30mm rads don't go well in the same thought.

If you put a rad on the bottom, you can't have one in front, and vice versa.

You can however, fit a Monsta 80mm thick 240 on the bottom in push pull and still have some drive space, . . . . . Probably as much rad as you can get there for the least amount of effort to do it.

Alternatively, you could put a 280 on the bottom, if you don't use a long footprint PSU.


But it's your build, and nobody much pays me any mind anyway, so use whatever you want.


Darlene

Thanks you so much for your help I am pretty clueless about all of this stuff and that is why I am asking you guys biggrin.gif Don't make fun of me thumb.gif I have never done any water cooling before. I was thinking about the UT60 for the top with three powerful fans above the case, but would that really be better? I have a 4 pin and an 8 pin on the top of the motherboard and they bend up so it would be a really tight fit to get it in there and would it be that much more efficient than a rad with fans pushing air directly through instead on fans on top pushing out? I figured 30mm rads would fit better and work the same since I'm going to have three multi-fan rads throughout the case and water temp will only be as good as the ambient temp in the room. Is my logic wrong here? I want to do something like this:



Here is the cables on the top that I was talking about. That is a small H100i rad up there right now:



So could I do a fanless 360mm UT60 on the top and a push/pull Monsta 240mm rad on the bottom? I could also fit a 120 or 140 rad on the fan mount also, right? I just would like sufficient cooling for two (in the future a third) overclocked 7950's and a delidded 3770k at 1.5v (temps don't go above 70c with the H100i.
Edited by RavageTheEarth - 4/12/13 at 11:11am
post #755 of 1964
I almost just want to copy fenz's design because I have the same motherboard.
post #756 of 1964
I think Darlene is right on the money. I'm actually using a 47mm rad with 25mm fans in push pull in the top so I'm pushing it as far as interior top space goes and didn't have to worry too much about the 8pin to the mobo. With just the 60mm at the top it shouldn't be a problem. I'd say take her advice and add another rad later if you really feel your cooling performance is lacking for your setup. I have my airflow setup like your diagram and my liquid temps run at about a 5-7 degree delta when the system is loaded with my fans at medium speeds. I'm using a 55mm 280 rad at the bottom with just pull fans. I'm more than satisfied with it.
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post #757 of 1964
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Originally Posted by RavageTheEarth View Post

I almost just want to copy fenz's design because I have the same motherboard.


That's as good a mobo as they come, so excellent choice there.

That's not a sufficient reason to emulate a particular rig in this case. . . . That rig wouldn't come close to being on my list of rigs to draw inspiration from, but to each their own.


The grace of rads designed for 120mm fans, is that they sit up above the mobo, (from the perspective of looking down at it with the case on it's back as you assemble things) by 10mm (just over 3/8") more than rads for 140mm fans. That sort of gives you a little extra "wiggle room" with respect to where the fan is and the top edge of the mobo. Helps a lot with the 8 pin EPS connector for example

There are a lot of instances where you can use a 360 rad where you couldn't get a 280 of the same thickness to fit.

Slippyturtle mentioned using a 47mm thick rad in push pull, so you could go with the EK or the Alphacool XT45 to maximize the use of the top rad space.

Look at the front rad on the rig you want to emulate, and see how many fans it actually can fit, and how badly the airflow to it and from it are obstructed & convoluted, not to mention its presence forces the use of a thin rad on the bottom, where you have access to great fresh air flow and a more carefully planned setup would yield better results yet, as well as not looking like a plumber's Charlie foxtrot.


Often times rigs are put together using bits from previous rigs so as not to have to buy all new gear. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not, . . . . .

Since you are building from scratch, ask lots of questions and spend hours looking at pictures.

I'd recommend the watercooling club thread, it moves fast, but thousands of pics, often from guys with years or decades of experience.

Well, I've rambled on a bit and likely irritated a few folks, but keep looking and asking before you start buying.


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Sorry, Might be a silly question and someone has ansewerd it before but can i put the PSU in the Phantom 820 with the fan facing down?
Thanks:thumb:
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Sorry, Might be a silly question and someone has ansewerd it before but can i put the PSU in the Phantom 820 with the fan facing down?
Thanks:thumb:

yes
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Sorry, Might be a silly question and someone has ansewerd it before but can i put the PSU in the Phantom 820 with the fan facing down?
Thanks:thumb:

On any chassis where the PSU is mounted in the bottom, you can mount your PSU facing up or down.
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