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post #771 of 1964
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Originally Posted by XNine View Post

Pre-mixes are garbage, in my not so humble opinion. They don't stop algae from forming, they're often dangerous to our gear (RE: not rated for such chemicals)., they clog loops. Distilled, biocide. IF you want, you can always run MAyhems for a while as a show build, but I never recommend any pre-mix to anyone for daily use for extended periods. It's a pain in the ass to clean out when it starts breaking down, it smells terrible, and it's just not very good for the kind of parts we use in our loops.

Distilled+Biocide. And it's cheap. I just cleaned my loop last weekend. Took 2 bucks of distilled water and a few drops of biocide. Done.

Thanks for all the knowledge you have thrown at me, and im sorry if im really nub in terms of water cooling..cause it would be my first time..

and sorry if i got lots of questions to ask from knowledgeable people like you guys in OCN, another question pops in my thoughts and i know this would be silly and dumb to ask..will 2 120mm fans fit infront? cause i want to replace that big 200mm fan..
post #772 of 1964
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Originally Posted by feznz View Post


~ snip ~

It Diva and Slippery Turtle have some very valid points about my build.

I built this rig for some bling and hoses and radiators do it for me.

If I were to build from scratch and spent a lot more money and time, this will have an impact on final build quality

But it is far from being a practical and efficient build. though I am happy with the performance it is so hard to give a accurate temp because of the ambient temperatures but absolute hottest temp I have seen is 65 CPU 55 GPU that was a 33degree day and my pc is in equivalent of a sun room.

~ snip ~

I am glad this gave you inspiration but do browse more

you have to ask your self what do I want to achieve out of this

if it is more performance 3Dmark11 performance score of 11700 to 12300 - I would have been better to go 3way SLI instead of spending money on water cooling

if it is quietness then water cooling is it, My GTX 580 Lightings have noisy fans


feznz,

Thanks for a really straight forward reply.

It really brings home how subjective aesthetics can be, how personal our creations are, and how we approach our builds.

+ rep for the candor,


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post #773 of 1964
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Originally Posted by LordZhen View Post

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Originally Posted by XNine View Post

Pre-mixes are garbage, in my not so humble opinion. They don't stop algae from forming, they're often dangerous to our gear (RE: not rated for such chemicals)., they clog loops. Distilled, biocide. IF you want, you can always run MAyhems for a while as a show build, but I never recommend any pre-mix to anyone for daily use for extended periods. It's a pain in the ass to clean out when it starts breaking down, it smells terrible, and it's just not very good for the kind of parts we use in our loops.

Distilled+Biocide. And it's cheap. I just cleaned my loop last weekend. Took 2 bucks of distilled water and a few drops of biocide. Done.

Thanks for all the knowledge you have thrown at me, and im sorry if im really nub in terms of water cooling..cause it would be my first time..

and sorry if i got lots of questions to ask from knowledgeable people like you guys in OCN, another question pops in my thoughts and i know this would be silly and dumb to ask..will 2 120mm fans fit infront? cause i want to replace that big 200mm fan..

No worries, that's actually what we're all here for. We all start somewhere, and need a helping hand when delving into big projects like watercooling for the first time. That's what a community is all about (and NZXT just so happens to have some of the most knowledgable and friendly modders and builders out of any MFG's community).

As for the 200mm up front, there is no native support for 120/140mm on the P820. However, you could always mod some brackets in there to fit them.
post #774 of 1964
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No worries, that's actually what we're all here for. We all start somewhere, and need a helping hand when delving into big projects like watercooling for the first time. That's what a community is all about (and NZXT just so happens to have some of the most knowledgable and friendly modders and builders out of any MFG's community).

As for the 200mm up front, there is no native support for 120/140mm on the P820. However, you could always mod some brackets in there to fit them.

That was so kind and humble of you to state that smile.gif

im planning on having a fan splitter (3 fans connected to 1 3pin port from the provided fan controller tagged top fan and the Phantom 820 has two of it). So the plan is to connect the 3 fans which is in pull configuration in a fan splitter connected to 1 port and the other 3 connected to another fan splitter and connected to the 2nd port that is controlled by the top fan controller (assuming i had placed the 360 rad on top of the case)

will it work? or any suggestions?
post #775 of 1964
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That was so kind and humble of you to state that smile.gif

im planning on having a fan splitter (3 fans connected to 1 3pin port from the provided fan controller tagged top fan and the Phantom 820 has two of it). So the plan is to connect the 3 fans which is in pull configuration in a fan splitter connected to 1 port and the other 3 connected to another fan splitter and connected to the 2nd port that is controlled by the top fan controller (assuming i had placed the 360 rad on top of the case)

will it work? or any suggestions?

How many fans are you uswing in this build? The 820's fan controller has like 15 leads IIRC.
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post #776 of 1964
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How many fans are you uswing in this build? The 820's fan controller has like 15 leads IIRC.

6 x 120mm fans in a push/pull configuration on top
1 x 140mm fan (exhaust) at the back
1 x 200mm (default nzxt fan) in front
1 x 140mm fan located on the special tilt position location beside the HDD cage
2 x 120mm fans in a push configuration for the 240 rad (below the HDD cage)

a total of 11 fans all in all (since im in the process of modding my side panel and removed the 200mm side panel fan)
post #777 of 1964
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6 x 120mm fans in a push/pull configuration on top
1 x 140mm fan (exhaust) at the back
1 x 200mm (default nzxt fan) in front
1 x 140mm fan located on the special tilt position location beside the HDD cage
2 x 120mm fans in a push configuration for the 240 rad (below the HDD cage)

a total of 11 fans all in all (since im in the process of modding my side panel and removed the 200mm side panel fan)

You could definitely run all those of the stock fan controller if you want to. BTW I know what it's like having a ton of fans. I had 14 in my Red Rover build (5 200mms plus 9 120mms).
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post #778 of 1964
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Originally Posted by LordZhen View Post

6 x 120mm fans in a push/pull configuration on top
1 x 140mm fan (exhaust) at the back
1 x 200mm (default nzxt fan) in front
1 x 140mm fan located on the special tilt position location beside the HDD cage
2 x 120mm fans in a push configuration for the 240 rad (below the HDD cage)

a total of 11 fans all in all (since im in the process of modding my side panel and removed the 200mm side panel fan)

I'd try to spread the fan wattages roughly even between all four fan controller channels. When I tried running four 140mm LED fans on one channel, one of them wouldn't spin till I manually started the fan.

I ended up using a separate fan controller to power six of my 16 fans, just to be sure I wasn't overloading the 820's controller.
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post #779 of 1964
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I still have much planning to do and that diagram I made was just a first draft. So perhaps I will do a 45mm rad on the top and a monstaa on the bottom. Mabe I could also do a 140mm rad on the rear and use it as an intake to feed fresh air to the top rad? Is that a good idea? and I'll just leave the front 200mm fan that comes with the case. In that case I could still have my 3 desired rads.
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Thanks for your ideas and opinions. I am still in the beginning stages of figuring out how I want to do this. I just want to achieve the best temps I possibly can while also giving everything a nice look to it. I don't want any lights or dyed water or anything like that. I would just be happy with red tubing and nicely placed rads. I actually just thought about putting a 240 rad on the outside of the back of the case. That way I can have a fan blowing directly on it (or I can put it next to an open window in the winter). I think that would work well. I can feed the tubing through the rubber grommets in the back. I also really like the look of an external radiator mounted on the back of the case (ie. Karlitos). So I'm going to get back to planning and measuring.

If you're entertaining the idea of adding an external mounted rad with the intentions of maximizing cooling performance, you could think of going even bigger than a 240... in that case I might consider a thick 360 if overkill is your motive. If you want to add a 120/140mm rad to the rear (internally) you will have to be mindful on your choice of rad thickness for the top and/or fan setup, and prolly mount your 360 rad with fittings facing the front of the case... which may require a little bit of modding to the top drive bay to get everything routed correctly. Chino posted updates to his build back on page 72 with a rear mounted 120mm, and you can read Triniboi82's build log to see the mod he did to the front bay.

Personally if I needed the extra cooling and it came down to a choice of adding 1 more 120/140mm rear rad or just going with a larger external, I'd just go with the external mount. The compromises you have to make to add the rear single rad don't seem worth it to me for the performance you'll gain from it. The other benefit would be that you could build your rig now with just the 360mm and 240mm and keep it simple, and add the external 240 or w/e you choose later without much drama when you add your third GPU. It should be easy to plumb in to an existing loop.
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post #780 of 1964
Thanks for the feedback

If I made a rule of thumb for maximum top fan and radiator thickness
would be do not exceed 82mm total
mine is 78 I believe 85 would fit but I wouldn't guarantee it

My opinion on coolant, would I recommend? probably Pastel by Mayhems or EK coolant
But what I use is Automotive Long life coolant. 5year life.
One important note is I have removed all acrylic from my system.
My first water loop lasted nearly 3 years without changing the coolant, (rig torn down due to hardware upgrade)
I can post back if I have problems or decide if I am going to change the coolant.
So far the coolant is 6 months old on this build (have torn down 4 months ago adding water to make up dual 180mm rad)
recycling the coolant

I have seen a thread where they decided to use vodka as coolant
I wouldn't recommend it, do at your own risk! Like all coolants

I think it is important to know about allowance for water thermal expansion when using larger volumes of coolant.
I am using 1.75litres of coolant.

I had a leak caused by filling the reservoir until all the air was gone
I tortured my computer with folding@home 20 hours a day.
Really as an experiment to see how long it would last.
The reservoir lasted 2 weeks before the O-ring failed. I glued it together with some 3Bond
I continued another 3 weeks one GPU fails, so Total 5 weeks testing.

I now allow as much air in the reservoir as possible because the water will expand a little.
If you have a sealed loop then there is no room for this expansion to take place.
Adding an air pocket is essential to prevent any pressure build up in the loop.
Especially with larger volumes of coolant.
Edited by feznz - 4/13/13 at 10:10pm
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