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Most of the people I know that even use Linux do so because they do not what to pay for software at all. And will go to any length to not pay for any thing. I know that this does not represent most of the people on this forum but from the people I know that do use Linux they are some of the biggest software pirates I have ever known if they can't get it for free they will warez it in a heartbeat.

Then you don't know many Linux users. Free in Linux's world is for freedom, not free items. Sure some people use it because they're cheap, but most use it for the freedom. I think you need to open yourself to the real world of Linux users and not those idiots.

Also calling Linux users software pirates is almost contradictory. If stuff on Linux is free, how can it be pirated especially on 'warez' sites? smile.gif
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And if they do I bet they will have to be paid for again even if they are owned on the Windows version witch is something I do not see many Linux users doing.

If they are Linux users, what makes you think they have a Windows version in the first place?

Also, Valve isn't porting the games themselves. They're basically making their own version of Wine ( to keep it simple ) converting DirectX calls into their relevant OpenGL calls, at least from what most sites are claiming.
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Linux users are actively choosing to isolate and segregate themselves in the first place so why is banning them from games a bad thing? Blizzard is just giving what they want deep down inside.

True story.
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Linux users are actively choosing to isolate and segregate themselves in the first place so why is banning them from games a bad thing? Blizzard is just giving what they want deep down inside.
True story.

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First do not get me wrong I like Linux and have used it for many years.
Well I have heard the same thing over and over again for years. And Steam is not the first one to try there had at porting games to Linux. I have followed it for years back when I used Linux there were many games being ported and then one day the website was gone and that was it. Steam will not be the last and we will have to see how many games get ported out side of Valve's own games. I really do not see dev's like EA and some others allowing them to port them. And if they do I bet they will have to be paid for again even if they are owned on the Windows version witch is something I do not see many Linux users doing.
Most of the people I know that even use Linux do so because they do not what to pay for software at all. And will go to any length to not pay for any thing. I know that this does not represent most of the people on this forum but from the people I know that do use Linux they are some of the biggest software pirates I have ever known if they can't get it for free they will warez it in a heartbeat.
For most of the game company's to support Linux there would be DRM that most Linux users would hate and therefore not buy the games so the devs would loose money and then not release any more games because "there is no money to be made".
Hell ten or more years ago I seen the same kind of post "Windows is a relic and Linux will take over". And yet many years later there still is not a unified package installer among the different disto's, drivers can still be a problem for some devices.

There was a time I agreed with this. You're absolutely right in saying that Steam is not the first, and will not be the last to port games over to Linux. But I agree for a diferent reason. Steam will be just the beginning.

I started playing games on floppies years ago. I remember installing our first CD-Rom and playing Monkey Island. I had no clue what Linux was at the time. I was using Windows at home and Apple's at school. Neither were incredibly user friendly, and I still have a laundry list of DOS commands in my head. Ten years ago you are talking about Windows XP, and no one had heard of an iPhone. Ten years ago, the Xbox was new and games were still using a slew of proprietary languages and engines. Ten years ago, the only Indie development were MUD's and the like. Ten years ago is the Stone Age.

The landscape has changed radically.

Ten years ago, people weren't nearly as adroit with technology in every aspect of their life. Linux was not nearly as user friendly as it is today. Most of the people on this forum weren't using it. This forum wasn't even around. Fast-forward to the present and installing Linux is as simple as installing Windows. Indie development is alive and being catered to by tech giants like Microsoft. Minecraft says it all. Social media has changed the way people communicate and guarantees people are using some type of connected device every day. I wouldn't have dreamed of being able to have my own home automation server running freeware, and my only webpage was on an angelfire domain.

Now? My mother has a webpage that she setup with Wordpress using a free template hosted on my server. She created it when she heard it looked good on her resume while job hunting. My mother can't setup her email on her iPhone. That's how simple things are. And it's only the beginning.

I'm not championing Linux because it's free. I'm a convert because it's open source. And that is the future.

There are more of us tech geeks today than ever. Geeks have even achieved a pseudo-coolness factor a la The Big Bang Theory that is far removed the the 80's Revenge of the Nerds. No longer is being tech-savvy equated with pocket protectors, and nor will it ever be again. Because technology is mainstream, and it's only going be more and more ingrained. When I was a child I played outside and begged for a Nintendo. Now kids are forced to go outside and simply pull out their smart phone. This has happened in a generation. Not several, ONE.

I'm not arguing for the future, this is already here. It's happening every day.

Linux will run everything natively before you know it. The only possibility that I'm wrong is that it won't be Linux. It will be something better.

The question isn't whether EA will ever allow there games to run on Linux. The question is whether EA will even be around. The more tech-savvy people become the less of a need there is for a traditional structured bloatware like EA.
    
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Linux distros are joke as of 2012
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First do not get me wrong I like Linux and have used it for many years.
Well I have heard the same thing over and over again for years. And Steam is not the first one to try there had at porting games to Linux. I have followed it for years back when I used Linux there were many games being ported and then one day the website was gone and that was it. Steam will not be the last and we will have to see how many games get ported out side of Valve's own games. I really do not see dev's like EA and some others allowing them to port them. And if they do I bet they will have to be paid for again even if they are owned on the Windows version witch is something I do not see many Linux users doing.
Most of the people I know that even use Linux do so because they do not what to pay for software at all. And will go to any length to not pay for any thing. I know that this does not represent most of the people on this forum but from the people I know that do use Linux they are some of the biggest software pirates I have ever known if they can't get it for free they will warez it in a heartbeat.
For most of the game company's to support Linux there would be DRM that most Linux users would hate and therefore not buy the games so the devs would loose money and then not release any more games because "there is no money to be made".
Hell ten or more years ago I seen the same kind of post "Windows is a relic and Linux will take over". And yet many years later there still is not a unified package installer among the different disto's, drivers can still be a problem for some devices.

some of that was idiotic some was true
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Linux users are actively choosing to isolate and segregate themselves in the first place so why is banning them from games a bad thing? Blizzard is just giving what they want deep down inside.
True story.

Agreed.
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oh man this thread is fail for people who think someone deserves to be banned from a game they payed for based on what OS they choose to use. Its sad too when you buy d3 you don't own it being online only.
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oh man this thread is fail for people who think someone deserves to be banned from a game they payed for based on what OS they choose to use. Its sad too when you buy d3 you don't own it being online only.

please show me where linux is anywhere in the system requirements?

You're violating their TOS by not using a supported operating system. I never will understand the die hard linux crowd (I used linux too fedora, redhat, suse, ubuntu[sort of])

I get it Gabe newell is the most awesomest person ever. Because he ported 3 games that all run the same crappy 8 year old engine to linux. Big Effing deal. I only play one of those games and not very much. Port over my 400 plus games and we'll talk. I am not trading in a 200 dollar operating system for a free operating system that is "open" to miss out on 20 grand worth of games. Not to mention my thousands of dollars worth of productivity programs that won't run on linux.

If you guys spent as much time porting over useful stuff as you didnt moaning about how you're so down trodden more of us would have switched over.
 
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Linux isn't the same desktop OS it was a few years ago. Companies like Blizzard should take a page out of Valve's book and get with the times.
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