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Wait, what? There's not a single $400 laptop in the most popular retail outlet for them pretty much everywhere I've seen; and most people tend to own ones that come within the $600-$1200 range from what I've seen..I've seen like 4 laptops that were under $400 at launch in the hands of users, one of which was my $200 netbook and another being a $200 netbook I recommended to a friend who wanted to watch movies and play Audiosurf.
Got any proof to back up the $400 comment?
I can buy laptops for about $400 at my local Walmart. Or you can order them online, here's one. If you were to spend an extra $100 and slap in a 128GB 830 then yea, it wouldn't matter what OS it ran. A SSD would make even ME seem awesome to a average user.

What about the marketshare? I've seen way more $600+ laptops than cheap ones here.
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My late fifties mother doesn't, nor does my girlfriends 39 year old mother and father. Even my 60 something year old Aunt who works at IBM and knows how to use Linux fairly well. (Admittedly, most of her knowledge applies to machines where you're better off manually setting up IRQ configurations rather than letting the PC do it automatically though, she didn't have trouble going from XP to 7 though)
..The performance difference is less than going from an FX-8150 to an FX-8350 from what I've seen, definitely not "much better" and certainly not really noticable unless you're running a Pentium 4..in which case you should really either be on XP or Linux anyway.
From a "feel" standpoint. Someone who goes to buy a new laptop and see's the machine boot in a few seconds, and see how easy it is to carry on daily activities. Will be sold on the spot with Windows 8.

The difference is practically unnoticable with an SSD, so laptops with SSDs (ie. Nearly the entire fairly popular Ultrabook market) won't really show the difference.
Ultrabooks are not fairly popular.

They are for students from what I've seen.
    
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post #182 of 193
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What difference does it make whether they release a large Service Pack rather than release a few small updates, if the small updates are the same crap you would get IN the supposed Service Pack?

You can download the OS with SPs installed already from technet. Saves several hours of download time on each install.
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Wait, what? There's not a single $400 laptop in the most popular retail outlet for them pretty much everywhere I've seen; and most people tend to own ones that come within the $600-$1200 range from what I've seen..I've seen like 4 laptops that were under $400 at launch in the hands of users, one of which was my $200 netbook and another being a $200 netbook I recommended to a friend who wanted to watch movies and play Audiosurf.
Got any proof to back up the $400 comment?
I can buy laptops for about $400 at my local Walmart. Or you can order them online, here's one. If you were to spend an extra $100 and slap in a 128GB 830 then yea, it wouldn't matter what OS it ran. A SSD would make even ME seem awesome to a average user.

What about the marketshare? I've seen way more $600+ laptops than cheap ones here.
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My late fifties mother doesn't, nor does my girlfriends 39 year old mother and father. Even my 60 something year old Aunt who works at IBM and knows how to use Linux fairly well. (Admittedly, most of her knowledge applies to machines where you're better off manually setting up IRQ configurations rather than letting the PC do it automatically though, she didn't have trouble going from XP to 7 though)
..The performance difference is less than going from an FX-8150 to an FX-8350 from what I've seen, definitely not "much better" and certainly not really noticable unless you're running a Pentium 4..in which case you should really either be on XP or Linux anyway.
From a "feel" standpoint. Someone who goes to buy a new laptop and see's the machine boot in a few seconds, and see how easy it is to carry on daily activities. Will be sold on the spot with Windows 8.

The difference is practically unnoticable with an SSD, so laptops with SSDs (ie. Nearly the entire fairly popular Ultrabook market) won't really show the difference.
Ultrabooks are not fairly popular.

They are for students from what I've seen.
Oh definetely for students. No-one else though.
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Dream on bud. You drank the coolaid, good for you. Everything faster 400x times better, thanks for the chuckle. biggrinsmiley.gif
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Oh definetely for students. No-one else though.

Yeah, most people I've seen use their laptops on one desk at home all the time and never move them, at least here. No idea why they don't get a cheap desktop or something..eugh.
    
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I have 3 people like that in my house... lol.

Worse, when they move stuff around, they use iPads. doh.gif
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Right.
I'm the ignorant one, yet you don't even care to address what I was even saying? You can slipstream any and all Windows Updates onto an ISO. They don't have to be service packs. Demanding a service pack when all it's going to do is combine all updates after SP1 into a single package is pretty redundant. If you're as tech savvy as you make yourself to be, slipping updates onto your ISO is as easy as slipping a service pack onto it, and you should know that.

Yeah slip streaming can be done and can be really helpful as you can add other stuff like software of your choice but, on the other hand an SP3 disc is way easier, i should have mentioned that.
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http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34953

Each month's updates are available all packed into ISOs. Download the few that have been out since SP1 and pack them all into one ISO for a flash drive/etc. Job's done. They would all collectively be far too large to fit on a single DVD regardless, so a SP2 probably isn't feasible to begin with.
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http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34953
Each month's updates are available all packed into ISOs. Download the few that have been out since SP1 and pack them all into one ISO for a flash drive/etc. Job's done. They would all collectively be far too large to fit on a single DVD regardless, so a SP2 probably isn't feasible to begin with.

Then how did they manage to fit XP SP3 on a 700MB CD? Most updates are data replacement, not data addon.

Something tells me you don't install windows on a regular basis like most technet owners. Having all the updates pre-built into the system is a massive time-saver, and it only saves time because MS does it. All that time wasted updating and restarting adds up.
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http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34953
Each month's updates are available all packed into ISOs. Download the few that have been out since SP1 and pack them all into one ISO for a flash drive/etc. Job's done. They would all collectively be far too large to fit on a single DVD regardless, so a SP2 probably isn't feasible to begin with.

Then how did they manage to fit XP SP3 on a 700MB CD? Most updates are data replacement, not data addon.

Something tells me you don't install windows on a regular basis like most technet owners. Having all the updates pre-built into the system is a massive time-saver, and it only saves time because MS does it. All that time wasted updating and restarting adds up.

XP SP3 was 300MB.
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