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PWM dimming can cause eye strain and some see flickering lines. Only some people are sensitive to it, and it may only become an issue after a few hours of use. I can't see any ill effects and I've owned some of the worst displays when it comes to PWM dimming.

The Asus VG278HE is by far the bes of the ones posted above, but the original VG278H has better colours and no input lag @60hz (they both have negligible input lag @120hz & 144hz). The VG278HE has 18ms of input lag @60hz and no built in IR emitter so you can't play/watch 3D content on consoles.

Both the BenQ & Iiyama have meh colours ghosting issues, and the Iiyama has minor input lag at 120hz. I get all of my info from PRAD.de's reviews and I've owned 5x 120hz displays and reviewed 4, and the BenQ is easily the worst out of the ones I've owned (Samsung S23A700D, Samsung 2233rz, Samsung S27A950D, Asus VG236H and BenQ XL2420T) in terms of colours, grainy matte coatings and ghosting.
Edited by MenacingTuba - 10/30/12 at 4:24pm
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PWM dimming can cause eye strain and some see flickering lines. Only some people are sensitive to it, and it may only become an issue after a few hours of use. I can't see any ill effects and I've owned some of the worst displays when it comes to PWM dimming.
The Asus VG278HE is by far the bes of the ones posted above, but the original VG278H has better colours and no input lag @60hz (they both have negligible input lag @120hz & 144hz). The VG278HE has 18ms of input lag @60hz and no built in IR emitter so you can't play/watch 3D content on consoles.
Both the BenQ & Iiyama have meh colours ghosting issues, and the Iiyama has minor input lag at 120hz. I get all of my info from PRAD.de's reviews and I've owned 5x 120hz displays and reviewed 4, and the BenQ is easily the worst out of the ones I've owned (Samsung S23A700D, Samsung 2233rz, Samsung S27A950D, Asus VG236H and BenQ XL2420T) in terms of colours, grainy matte coatings and ghosting.
Interesting BUT..

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/benq_xl2420t.htm
Scroll down about half way and read the calibration results.
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Interesting BUT..
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/benq_xl2420t.htm
Scroll down about half way and read the calibration results.

For what it's worth, I value NCX / MenacingTuba's opinion REALLY highly. I've been out and bought monitors that tft reviewed well, and they were rubbish, and NCX always gives it how it is, both the positives of the monitor in his experience, and the negatives, and both of these are evaluated by time he spends using the monitor for a variety of things, rather than just running it through benchmarks. NOT saying tftcentral are bad at what they do, I just think NCX does an amazing review.
    
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Scroll down about half way and read the calibration results.

Calibration....which requires a colorimeter, so add 160$+tax to the price of the BenQ for a compatible colorimeter (spyder 4 pro). Using someone elses settings+ICC profile doesn't really count since most displays are slightly, and sometimes vastly different. The default colours are what matter, one shouldn't have to tweak things (if one doesn't own a reference display they will just be guessing) to get good image quality out of a display. Samsung & Asus understand this with their 120hz displays, I'm not sure why BenQ doesn't.
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for FPS games... yes diff a good choice.
but i still prefer higher resolution monitors, for any other games..
games like
CS. r really better with 120mhz.
but for BF3, i prefer higher resolution.
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In order to fully utilize the 120Hz, you need the frames (fps) to support it to ensure smoothness in picture. Otherwise the 120Hz means nothing.

I need to stop coming to 120hz threads because your statement is flat out wrong. I haven't seen tearing on any game with vsync off at any fps other than CS:GO which does tear for some unknown reason. I only have a 6970 and get low 30s in metro maxed out, get 600fps on CSS, and many games between and never see tearing.
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I love my 120 hz monitor Lg w2363d . Blacks are DEEP. and good colors (Not as good as my plasma). I got a spare 120hz monitor (forgot what it is) But this one is alot brighter and darker But as for the monitor you picked out i would stay away from 27 inches lower time to reproduce the screen. look on youtube compared to crts. Mine is quite fast. but old black light (not led) and has a little light bleed.
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I need to stop coming to 120hz threads because your statement is flat out wrong. I haven't seen tearing on any game with vsync off at any fps other than CS:GO which does tear for some unknown reason. I only have a 6970 and get low 30s in metro maxed out, get 600fps on CSS, and many games between and never see tearing.
1. If you're gaming your vsync should be turned off anyways. Having a cap on 60 FPS isn't fun. I don't have vsync on and never have it on because I personally don't like vsync and the concept of it is awful.
2. You use 120Hz to ultimate SMOOTHNESS. In order to have that SMOOTHNESS you need to have higher frames to fully utilize this.

Using a 120Hz monitor without the proper amount of FPS to utilize it is useless and you won't see a difference as if you were to use a 60Hz monitor. If you have the FPS to back it up, then you see the difference. So no, YOUR statement is flat out wrong. Not mines.

It's like saying you're running a game at 30 FPS. Compare that with a 120Hz and a 60Hz, there won't be as much of a difference compared to a 120Hz monitor on 250 FPS. Ultimately, higher FPS = smoother movement especially if you have high fps.

Playing a game like MW3 where the FPS is capped at 90 FPS there will be less of a difference in smoothness. Yes there is a difference, but it isn't as obvious because it's at 90 FPS.
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Screen tearing isn't really much of an issue for me because only one or two games have it.

I'm after a smoother experience as my machine can normally get 80 + FPS, often above 100 so I think a 120hz monitor would benefit in most games. Ill look into a second gtx 670 when I can afford it to bring minimum upto around 120 in all scenarios.

The store price matched the BenQ, they have knocked off £40 so can't complain at that. A little concerned I'm not upgrading to a bigger screen but hoping the features and benefits will be worth it over my iiyama monitor I currently own.
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The pictures do no justice for it, it is a great looking monitor.

What I dislike is the hole. The redness may look better in real life, but in the images, it is an "odd" red.
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