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post #11 of 27
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thanks for the review mate.
i had been looking at this controller for a while. might just go for the air keyboard and use my 360 remote for gaming

No Problem, I am happy the review helped wink.gif
post #12 of 27
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Great info here...
Thinking about building a htpc for streaming, much less powerful than your setup but this info still applies...
Rep

Thanks Dsit995 wink.gif
post #13 of 27
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Totally forgot to include my itemized list of components used. I updated the original post but here is the Excel attachment link for viewing.

SilentNAS_and_SilentHTPC_Itemized_List.xls 38k .xls file

Cost of components compared to my current build can be reduced by substituting other similar items and/or using various other configurations... even less if you recycle components.
post #14 of 27
Thanks for thread some good tips

Just wondering why you went for a 6750 and a i5? Surely an apu has a 6750 built in the cpu and the Intel won't offer and greater power savings vs the amd or useful power gains. It also costs more?
post #15 of 27
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Thanks for thread some good tips
Just wondering why you went for a 6750 and a i5? Surely an apu has a 6750 built in the cpu and the Intel won't offer and greater power savings vs the amd or useful power gains. It also costs more?

Thanks phill1978! I appreciate the kudos. wink.gif

Keep in mind I make no claims to be a subject matter expert (SME) on the topic by any means... but what I do well is research, read reviews, forums, test bench results, etc. I then try my best to extrapolate what I think will work for my build. I always recommend to anyone attempting a DIY build to follow a similar track if they have the time and not to be afraid to ask questions. Although, sometimes responses can leave a lot to be desired depending on the forum.

To answer your questions:
I totally agree with you, that going the AMD APU route is definitely worth consideration and for obvious reasons is a preferred choice as well. I did actually consider a llano build. There are so many variables to consider, but I will try to address just a couple of them without going too deep. There are quite a few websites that has already done all the comparison work already. AMD apu chips has excellent GPU performance that out performs Intel i3 equivalent chips. That said, AMD apu chips consumes more power and as a result produces more heat, thus you will be using more resources to keep your system cool. The difference in power usage between i3 and i5 is not significantly huge, however Intel chips are more expensive than AMD. Now again, these points are not meant to be the one size fits all scenario. It really depends on the components used, configuration, and what each individual is willing to live with while taking into consideration their key points for the build. Tom's hardware, Guru3d, PC magazine and a few others have some great comparison test-bench results between the chips.

As you know, when doing a DIY build you have so many avenues that can drive the build. For example:
*One can decide that their build, is built around their CPU which means a compatible Mobo will be needed to support that build, etc etc,
vice versa
*One can decide that their build, is built around their Mobo which means a compatible CPU will be needed to support the build, etc etc,
and of course there are other driving forces that can dictate a build.

...This is a good segway to my choices.

Reasons for my choice: The Mobo dictated my build.
I used my key points listed below for my build... Again reading performance reviews for the various components helped in the decision making.
*Absolute must --- Built in wi-fi (Stream media between floors – no extra cables)
*Minimum of two 6GB/s SATA ports
*On board graphics

When I searched for wi-fi capable ITX Mobo's, the ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe LGA 1155 Intel was the clear winner. There was a limited selection of other similar Mobos. Compounding the list smaller was finding previous owners for the respective brands giving rave reviews. Now that I have selected an Intel Mobo this means my options are down to i3/i5/i7. By the way, I am a huge fan of ASUS Mobo's. My order of preferred brands are Asus, Gigabyte, then AsRock. At the time of purchase the Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core was the best performance value. I will attempt to find the website (needle in a haystack find) I used to help my decision and post it. It may not show the exact information from when I initially made the purchase, since it is a live comparison chart that is constantly being updated.

As for the inclusion of a separate 6750, that is a personal choice for wanting a low profile passive cooling GPU with a bit more performance. The reason to include a built-in GPU (another one of my key points) is to give me the flexibility of removing the 6750 and replace it with a tuner card. I also have the option to keep the 6750 and use an external tuner if needed. This addresses my other key point of expandability.

I hope this helps in someway explain my choices.
Edited by RogueRage - 11/8/12 at 8:07pm
post #16 of 27
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Thanks for thread some good tips
Just wondering why you went for a 6750 and a i5? Surely an apu has a 6750 built in the cpu and the Intel won't offer and greater power savings vs the amd or useful power gains. It also costs more?

Great review from Tom's Hardware.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-5800k-trinity-efficiency,3315-12.html

In the comments section one user posted a power usage chart on idle between the chips.
post #17 of 27
Thanks for the honest detailed response smile.gif

The apu I was referring too was the a6-3500 which idles at 20w
a lot of reviews differ on idle power but many seem to use over sized psu which are inefficient

still there is nothing wrong with your setup, as you say the Intel motherboards are better at itx and you can add a powerful you in future with no bottlenecks
post #18 of 27
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Thanks for the honest detailed response smile.gif
The apu I was referring too was the a6-3500 which idles at 20w
a lot of reviews differ on idle power but many seem to use over sized psu which are inefficient
still there is nothing wrong with your setup, as you say the Intel motherboards are better at itx and you can add a powerful you in future with no bottlenecks

Ahh, I see where you are coming from. Yup I agree, makes you wonder, right. wink.gif
post #19 of 27
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Now that I have got the HTPC, NAS, and Full Tower Build pretty much completed. Now its onto the next project?...

Backup Raid5 Server for NAS and my other shared machines. I think I will have to do some quick research to take advantage of Thanksgiving Day/Cyber Monday sales. If anyone has any suggestions please do not hesitate to throw it my way. I will be mainly focusing on whats new out on the market within reason of course.

Please feel free to comment on any component of choice. Case, CPU, PSU, Mobo, RAM, etc, etc.
post #20 of 27
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I found my first potential backup Server Mobo for consideration.

ASUS C60M1-I AMD Fusion APU C-60 (1.0GHz, dual core) AMD Hudson M1 Mini ITX Motherboard/CPU Combo
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