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post #31 of 72
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Hello,
Great post, just what I want to find! Iam planning to build gaming PC using this case and cooling is opened question for me. Low profile air CPU coolers I think not enough for game built especially if I will have powerful GPU card in it ( I think between GTX 780 or GTX 690) and I start think about liquid systems and found you post.

I thought before that there is no space for radiator and fans, how you was able to fit them instead of case fan? also can you tell me, why did you use here 120mm Corsair H60 instead for Hydro Series H90 that has native 140mm ?



Hey Basilbattery,

This case is great for mobility. It has worked well for me. About those GPU's, either of those cards are excellent for building a gaming PC. Air-cooling options for this case were limited due to the PSU taking up a bulk of the space. That said, building an HTPC machine meant silence was a key factor. As a result, choosing a liquid solution gave the best options for silence as well as better cooling results. The enclosed Corsair unit (Corsair H60 in my case) worked perfectly.

The main reason for choosing the H60 over the H90 was due to the dimensions of the radiator. The H90 radiator is about 20mm longer on one side (152mm vs 170mm). It may not seem like a lot but that extra 18mm was enough to be in the way of a couple case connections and other parts of case structure itself. Looking at the dimensions from a different angle that is 30mm extended beyond a 140mm x 140mm fan dimensions.

If you do not plan on using the HD cage you can use the H90 or the larger H100 if needed. There are options to mount the HD drives at the base of the case giving you the flexibility to remove the HD cage. The GPU (780/690) may require the removal of the HD cage for it to fit perfectly.

Fitting the H60 Corsair unit was tight due to the limited spacing between the front of the case and the HD cage. Using a stable low profile 140mm to 120mm fan adapter with a 7mm thickness from Koolance, along with a specially ordered 15mm thick fan from Cooler Master I was able to fit the unit with about 2mm to spare. Usually case fans are about 25mm in thickness, so once I received the H60 unit I got rid of the stock fan to give me more options.

The best part with this setup is that I can still slide out the H60 unit and fan easily as one piece when the filter needs cleaning.

I forgot to mention another option I was looking into at the time was the Prodigy cases.
http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/products/chassis/prodigy/
Edited by RogueRage - 8/19/13 at 4:35pm
post #32 of 72
RogueRage, thank for detailed reply!

So I can easily remove cage and mount one HDD somewhere on the bottom? I try to search through web photos to understand what are this options, but it's hard to see them.

by the way, while thinking about how to fit corsair there I discovered ultra thin fans , only 120mm thin, Slip Stream 120 mm fan. I want to use one of the on the bottom, to increase airflow from vent to GPU, does this case has some options to mount fun there?

I understand after HD cage removal I could use more PSU lenght than 140 mm? If yes, this will help me a lot to find powerful PSU for this gaming build.
post #33 of 72
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Originally Posted by basilbattery View Post

RogueRage, thank for detailed reply!

So I can easily remove cage and mount one HDD somewhere on the bottom? I try to search through web photos to understand what are this options, but it's hard to see them.

by the way, while thinking about how to fit corsair there I discovered ultra thin fans , only 120mm thin, Slip Stream 120 mm fan. I want to use one of the on the bottom, to increase airflow from vent to GPU, does this case has some options to mount fun there?

I understand after HD cage removal I could use more PSU lenght than 140 mm? If yes, this will help me a lot to find powerful PSU for this gaming build.

Correct the cage can be easiy removed by removing a couple thumb screws. You will have more than enugh room for a full size PSU and a decent GPU.

At the base of the case there are predrilled holes to attach an SSD. There is also a vent at the bottom of the cage, but I do not remember if thre are holes to attach a fan at the base. I will confirm once I open my case up when I am home (I am away at the moment). If you have the tools you can drill four holes at the vent area to attach the fan. Another thing to consider is that the supplied feet of the case are pretty low profile if you will be placing a fan at the bottom but still workable as is. If needed, you can change the case feet to something larger if you require more airflow to the bottom of the case.

Once I am home I will try to take a couple images of the HD cage removed for a better view.
Edited by RogueRage - 8/21/13 at 11:02am
post #34 of 72
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Correct the cage can be easiy removed by removing a couple thumb screws. You will have more than enugh room for a full size PSU and a decent GPU.

At the base of the case there are predrilled holes to attach an SSD. There is also a vent at the bottom of the cage, but I do not remember if thre are holes to attach a fan at the base. I will confirm once I open my case up when I am home (I am away at the moment). If you have the tools you can drill four holes at the vent area to attach the fan. Another thing to consider is that the supplied feet of the case are pretty low profile if you will be placing a fan at the bottom but still workable as is. If needed, you can change the case feet to something larger if you require more airflow to the bottom of the case.

Once I am home I will try to take a couple images of the HD cage removed for a better view.

So only SSD could be mounted at the base? No options for HDD? That was my main question, because SSD could be placed everywhere and for HDD you should think about some fixture..

Thanks for feets reminder, I already placed new feets in my bookmarks and your photos will be very useful for me, thanks in advance!
post #35 of 72
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Originally Posted by basilbattery View Post

So only SSD could be mounted at the base? No options for HDD? That was my main question, because SSD could be placed everywhere and for HDD you should think about some fixture..

Thanks for feets reminder, I already placed new feets in my bookmarks and your photos will be very useful for me, thanks in advance!

Correct, only the SSD can be mounted at the bottom of the case. The HDD can be mounted under the Optical Drive Chassis.



1BottomOfCaseWithFilter
Here is a view of what the bottom of the case looks like from the outside. You can see that there are predrilled holes to mount an SSD at the bottom-inside of the case. You can also piggy back a second SSD on top of the first SSD if you buy an SSD mounting kit for about $4.00. Notice the removable air filter covering the vent area.


2BottomOfCaseWithoutFilter
There are no predrilled holes to mount a fan at the bottom of the case. That said, you can resolve this either of two ways. One, pre-drill holes over the vent area to mount your fan OR two, use Velcro sticky tape to secure the fan to the inside bottom of the case over that vent area. The latter requires the least amount of effort/work and prep-time. The Velcro tape you can get cheaply anywhere for around $2.00. The Velcro can also acts as your sound dampener for the fan.


3BottomThumbScrewsToRemoveHDDCage
There are a total of six thumb screws to remove the cage. Four at the front and two at the back of the HDD cage. In this image I already removed the two from the front of the HDD cage. You can see the two remaining thumb screws at the bottom front of the HDD cage.


4BackOfCase
Last two thumb screws is at the back of the case. Remove those and just slide the cage out from the front leaving the Optical drive Chassis.


5ViewOfHHDRoomforSSDAtBottom
Excuse the blurry image. Here is a view of the HDD cage removed. Notice I already preinstalled the HDD drive against the Optical Drive Chassis. I will get to that in a bit. I just wanted to show that there is plenty of room at the bottom of the case to mount your SSD drive and your fan . Also, an H60 unit to the front or your preference in water cooling units. The case has room for a decent size GPU.


6CloseupViewOfInsideBottom
Close up view of bottom area with the HDD cage removed you will have lots of room to hide extra cabling.


7HDDMountingScrews
To mount the HDD to the chassis. I found it easier to attach the supplied HDD screws to one end of the HDD as shown here. It should be noted that you will only be able to attach the HDD to the Optical Drive chassis using three thumb screws. The reason being, only on one side of the chassis has extra holes pre-drilled in addition to the slotted holes. This will be more than enough to secure your HDD.


8CloseupOfHDDtoOpticalDriveChassis
Mounting the drive after attaching those two HDD thumbscrews. You can flip the drive around if need be. I just did this view and mount of the HDD for ease of viewing.


9CloseupOfHDDMounted
Close up shot of third mounting screw attached to a non-slotted hole. That HDD is not going anywhere. If you want to go further, you can add a 3.5 HDD mounting kit to piggy back a second drive to the first drive.

I hope this helps your decision on if to get the case or not. Let me know if you need more information on anything else.
Edited by RogueRage - 8/24/13 at 10:22am
post #36 of 72
Now everything clear for me and I will take this case! Your information was much more useful than official Lian Support! Thanks a lot! thumb.gif

Also it will be interesting for me to understand temp inside case with installed Corsair radiator instead of case fan. All air will go through this radiator and I think become hot? I understand it depends on CPU and loading of it but it maybe critical issue for building game pc ? Reference GTX690 GPU card has hot air exhaust inside cage from on side as well.
post #37 of 72
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No problem at all. I am glad it helped.

About heat, you should be okay with both fans pulling in fresh air since the back of the case is perforated for hot air to escape. Also, test which airflow works best after your build is complete. That is, if having both fans acts as an intake gives you a better temperature oppose to having one fan acting as an intake and the other as an exhaust.
post #38 of 72
Now Iam happy with this case and will start buying everything to assemble! thank a lot for your information!
post #39 of 72
HI Rougue Rage!

I read all the post but just to reconfirm it for what you are saying.

It is possible to use a H90 and a 10.5" inches/26.7 cm GTX 780 card in the Lian Li TU200b?

Of course that first of all taking out the HD cage.But I mean the manual makes references there is a 300mm video card space it is in "total", inside the case or till touch the front 140mm diagonal fan?


I really hope you can clarify this for me as my calculations are that with the 780 and a H90 they'll fit leaving only a 0.6cm space between the video card and the radiator.

Many thanks!
post #40 of 72
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HI Rougue Rage!

I read all the post but just to reconfirm it for what you are saying.

It is possible to use a H90 and a 10.5" inches/26.7 cm GTX 780 card in the Lian Li TU200b?

Of course that first of all taking out the HD cage.But I mean the manual makes references there is a 300mm video card space it is in "total", inside the case or till touch the front 140mm diagonal fan?


I really hope you can clarify this for me as my calculations are that with the 780 and a H90 they'll fit leaving only a 0.6cm space between the video card and the radiator.

Many thanks!


Sorry MkII for the late response. I was out of the country for a few weeks. Got back and I was sick for another few weeks. Still though I missed your post somehow. To answer your question you will have room. With my setup I have 11.5 inches of room to work with. Here are a couple shots with measurements.



Again sorry about the late response.
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