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10/24/12 at 9:52pm
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Will there be a flood of gamers switching from Windows?

I've already put Linux Mint 13 on my netbook, and on my desktop (dual boot). I really like it so far, and its a lot easier to use that I thought it would be. I even installed Mint 13 on my gf's laptop because it was suffering from HP bloatware and viruses, now it runs better than it ever has 2 years later and she has had very few problems. The problems she did have we managed to solve quickly with the help of google, and the Linux Mint community. The only thing stopping me from switching the inability to game, but I think that is going to change over the next few years. This idea excites me, it will be interesting to see if steams decision to fully support linux will greatly increase the number of people using it... And with more users comes more support which can only mean good things !
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10/24/12 at 10:09pm
People seem to think steam coming to linux is some big amazing thing. The bottom line is that while some games / studios have said they will support linux the majority have not. Just because you can put steam on linux doesn't mean that the stuff on steam will work. You can get steam for mac as well and it's software list is very limited. Linux will likely be the same. Unless windows 8 bombs completely I don't believe this steam on linux thing is any major milestone. Not until the game studios and the powers that be choose to fully support the OS. This is further made difficult by the countless distro's that are in use these days. As much as I like the openess of different linux distro's it is also a major problem that will need to be overcome, getting companies to support it means they have to support them all and that is a huge hurdle that likely won't be jumped soon.

TLDR : I'd like to see it, but the reality is that it is very unlikely.
Edited by Tadaen Sylvermane - 10/24/12 at 10:25pm
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10/24/12 at 10:50pm
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Yea, one of the main problems is definitely the many distros. I believe steam is choosing to stick with ubuntu for the time being. But you make a lot of good points. Especially in regards to the game developers themselves. Without their support, steam switching to linux could end up being nothing big at all. Then again, valve has some great games themselves so we will likely see some big names like counter-strike, half-life, and dota 2 ported over.
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10/25/12 at 1:40am
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Will there be a flood of gamers switching from Windows?

No, but there will be a flood of people saying that if X game comes to Linux they'll drop Windows in a heartbeat... which they won't, of course.
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10/25/12 at 3:28am
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I don't think so. steam is more of a good start then something big
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10/25/12 at 3:38am
There will be a good amount of people switching I think, but nothing major. The gamer that is the opposite of me won't switch, but gamers like me probably will. I am a gamer that usually buys 1 game at a time and plays it until I am one of the best at it. I had the PS2 for 4 years and had 3 games for it. There are a lot of gamers like that, especially for Counterstrike, which if they only play a game that is supported by Linux and Windows, there is no reason not to switch to Linux.

The gamer that plays 10 games at a time and has bought hundreds of games won't switch because all the games they play won't be supported on Linux.

The biggest thing about this news is that Valve is working with Video Card makers to get their drivers up to speed on Linux. That is what is needed, support by major companies. As far as the kernel itself, Linux is superior to Windows in basically every way (which is why it has the server market, it performs better, is designed in a more secure way, and is reliable), so everything else is out of the control of the system itself. All Windows has over Linux now is the third party support from companies and there is nothing Linux can do about it except hope they start supporting it.
Edited by frozne - 10/25/12 at 3:41am
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10/25/12 at 8:44am
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Steam coming to Linux isn't about making people switch or even ditch WIndows flat out. I honestly don't get that mindset and why people continue to bring it up. Steam coming to Linux is about Vavle opening up a new market for them first and foremost. But they are doing it right, unlike all the others who tried before them. Valve is working with AMD/Nvidia to improve the drivers ( and has actually found bugs in Nvidias ), which is one of the biggest things that has been needed. And also Valve may start out small but they'll be able to show the world that there are people willing to buy games on Linux ( as the most common misconception is that we're freeloaders ). If they can show the right sales numbers then hopefully that will get other studios thinking about Linux too, as no company can refuse more money with little to no extra effort.

And before someone brings up John Carmack and his attempt. His attempt was a joke, and I'm sorry to the lovers of Carmack but he's an idiot. And beyond that only tried porting games but didn't try to help fix what needed to be fixed like Valve is doing.
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10/25/12 at 9:51am
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There will be a good amount of people switching I think, but nothing major. The gamer that is the opposite of me won't switch, but gamers like me probably will. I am a gamer that usually buys 1 game at a time and plays it until I am one of the best at it. I had the PS2 for 4 years and had 3 games for it. There are a lot of gamers like that, especially for Counterstrike, which if they only play a game that is supported by Linux and Windows, there is no reason not to switch to Linux.
The gamer that plays 10 games at a time and has bought hundreds of games won't switch because all the games they play won't be supported on Linux.
The biggest thing about this news is that Valve is working with Video Card makers to get their drivers up to speed on Linux. That is what is needed, support by major companies. As far as the kernel itself, Linux is superior to Windows in basically every way (which is why it has the server market, it performs better, is designed in a more secure way, and is reliable), so everything else is out of the control of the system itself. All Windows has over Linux now is the third party support from companies and there is nothing Linux can do about it except hope they start supporting it.

That's how I am too. I've been playing HoN since 09 early beta. It's pretty much the only game I play (counter-strike: GO as well), and it has a native linux client. Been having some troubles getting it to work though.
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10/29/12 at 9:28pm
For Linux to be decent gaming platform, developers would have to be swayed to develop using OpenGL (I think right?) instead of DirectX. Then video drivers would also have to catch up.

In the meantime, if you want to get your hands dirty, give PlayOnLinux a shot. It uses Wine as a back end but makes the whole install process a whole lot simpler. You can literally choose from a decent sized list of already supported games.
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