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Originally Posted by Valor958 View Post

With everything else around us, I doubt that 'cosmic radiation' (being a blanket term used to describe lots of types of energy) if effecting our electronics in any noticeable way. Class X solar flares certainly do a number, but that's even against government grade shielding on satellites in space. You could try a Faraday Cage or other methods, but frankly, with all the other energy and radiation around you and your electronics 24/7, it's futile.
Right now, you're probably being bombarded by at least 5 different sources of radiation or pervasive types of energy. It's just the state of the modern world.

Large scale servers are affected by it, it's not that relevant in a PC though.

Lead lined house, it'll keep the feds from controlling your appliances too. smile.gif

Edit: And in large scale servers it can cause memory errors that are then corrected by their ECC memory. That's why he's asking I assume, to prevent these memory errors in his own PC.
I doubt it actually affects the heat produced by a PC though. I don't know enough about it to say no for sure but I wouldn't worry about it anyway.
Edited by Mike-IRL - 10/25/12 at 6:28am
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sure, when cosmic rays cause errors, ECC RAM must correct these errors, thus making the PC do more stuff = more heat generated.

SCIENCE! rolleyes.gif
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Not me lol the computer,was reading the reason behind error correcting code.and it stem from the fact that cosmic radiation(namely neutron)do these error,also temperature seem to be also involved with neutron,so I assume as we go smaller ,heat more in a smaller area neutron get rated too and cause issue.just was hoping to know more .since I don't have a 22 nm system tho it will be hard to test.but I think I am on the right path .i LL take a chance and shield everything with lead
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Hi drbaltazar, and All,

First the radiation being generated from within your pc far exceeds any cosmic radiation that your pc might be exposed.......providing your not going into space. Secondly the heat that is being created within your pc is a result of moving several million culombes of electrons throught the conductors and semiconductors that make up your system.

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There are more issues with the CPU giving off radiation than anything cosmic, which is usually accounted for by the motherboard. As for temperature you're not going to be able to detect a difference without some enclosed lab environment, high tech monitoring equipment and hundreds of hours of operations on your little PC.
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Not me lol the computer,was reading the reason behind error correcting code.and it stem from the fact that cosmic radiation(namely neutron)do these error,also temperature seem to be also involved with neutron,so I assume as we go smaller ,heat more in a smaller area neutron get rated too and cause issue.just was hoping to know more .since I don't have a 22 nm system tho it will be hard to test.but I think I am on the right path .i LL take a chance and shield everything with lead

 

Don't forget your tin foil hat.

 

My point is, you really have nothing to worry about because you're talking about your personal computer here.  It would be different if you were living in a room that's full of dozens or hundreds of servers.

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post #18 of 32
Just to iterate almost, if you have a read up of ECC which I just did it's actually the system in place to cope with this interference, it may have been something else I was thinking of but there are at least one or two settings that improve stability from accidental 'flips'. It does indeed mention cosmic radiation but I can assure you that is going to be 0.0001% of interference compared to what is going on inside your machine and, clearly the systems manage fine. I'll repeat that trying to observe a temperature difference is utter folly but because of my realisation cosmic radiation counts for so little compared to what's going on inside your PC, enclosing it isn't going to do anything at all because 99.99% of the radiation is in there, and probably heating up pretty damn fast:rolleyes:. You could take your PC to CERN to see if they have the equipment to monitor the temp. fluctuations during a flip but I'm sure they already have that information and you'll realise it's on a level you can't comprehend, because I can't.
Edited by Unstableiser - 10/25/12 at 6:53am
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Also, consider the rest of us:  is anyone else on OCN worrying about this?  It doesn't look like it to me.  Why do you suppose that is?

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I would also point out that he stated wondering about if the effects might be noticed after a 16hr gaming period. For the love of God man... if you've been gaming for 16hrs straight already... and cosmic radiation causes your system to overheat... take that as a sign that the cosmos want you to get some freakin' sleep! biggrin.gif

Now if you had said that you were working on a cure for cancer or solving the energy crisis - or for that matter even working on a formula for safer drinking water... and you were going to need 17hrs of solid computing to get it done - then I might have a different answer. Gaming is good fun - I love it as do many members on here - but it's not critical to mankind's survival so you could probably just wait until it passes and then start gaming again. smile.gif

I think some of us on here tend to forget that it is possible to survive even if we were to unplug the computer completely. Not that it would be as much fun - but survival rarely is.
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