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Nice at least it comes with 1 of there SP120 high static pressure fans.

Form what I could discern reading the article it's actually a modified version of the SP120 to be better suited for use with the rad. I wonder if they will sell them separate for those wanting another for push/pull.
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post #22 of 109
Well, i have a Corsair Headset and i want a Corsair Case, Keyboard and Mouse.
Corsair are also making Memory, PSUs, CPU Cooling, SSDs... and now Mouse Mats.

Soon all our computers will be completely Corsair based, muahahaha biggrin.gif
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I like the looks of the mm200. That may be the replacement for my qck mass.
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post #24 of 109
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Corsair are also making Memory, PSUs, CPU Cooling, SSDs... and now Mouse Mats.
Technically they don't actually make their SSDs, liquid coolers, PSUs, or RAM... they just package an OEM's work and put their warranty and branding on it.
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post #25 of 109
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Technically they don't actually make their SSDs, liquid coolers, PSUs, or RAM... they just package an OEM's work and put their warranty and branding on it.

I really hate this comment. I'm sorry man, but if you knew the countless hours we've all spent at the office tweaking every single product, working on the specs and performance, evaluating stuff like SSD firmware revisions, PCB layouts, chip sorting, housing durability, liquid cooling MTBF with various types of hoses, noise to static pressure to airflow ratios on hundreds of different fan blades from custom CAD designs, how many hours our PSU engineers have spent refining and modifying component choices to meet specific ripple or voltage regulation requirements, modification of esoteric specs like fan hysteresis, working on the mechanical designs of memory heatsinks to make sure they actually stay together and function as they're supposed to while looking good at the same time, you would understand the work required.

Yeah, we do use contract manufacturers. You have to, our industry just isn't big enough to own our own Foxconn-sized plant. But to say all we do is make warranties and stickers - man, it's just completely dishonest.

I'm sorry if I came across harsh here, but when I read comments like that I wonder why I stay up until 2am on conference calls with our manufacturers in around the world and then get up at 6am to go to work the next day and fix something as small as whether or not the fan controller on some future case can auto-sense temperature and adjust accordingly for the price point we're trying to hit.

Please give credit where it's due. A lot of people buy something off the shelf, slap a sticker on it, and call it a day. We don't do that.

It's one thing if you don't like our products. That I can respect. But don't say we're lazy or that we're just packaging somebody else's work. If you saw the raw stuff we get before we spend months (or sometimes years) improving it for the market, you'd understand why we do the things we do and why our products are more expensive than the off-the-shelf stuff you can find.
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Thanks for clearing that up George.
Edited by hammerforged - 10/26/12 at 1:16pm
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post #27 of 109
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Form what I could discern reading the article it's actually a modified version of the SP120 to be better suited for use with the rad. I wonder if they will sell them separate for those wanting another for push/pull.

The SP120L that comes with the H60 uses the same impeller and housing design as the SP120 fan, with a few adjustments.
- Different motor and bearing (2000 RPM max)
- Removed rubberized corners from housing
- Removed color-swappable rings from housing
- Added PWM
post #28 of 109
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Who makes their ssds and ram? I thought that was kinda their thing.

We have our own manufacturing and assembly facilities for these - but we do buy off-the-shelf ICs. We also buy raw steel instead of mining our own ingots.
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I really hate this comment. I'm sorry man, but if you knew the countless hours we've all spent at the office tweaking every single product, working on the specs and performance, evaluating stuff like SSD firmware revisions, PCB layouts, chip sorting, housing durability, liquid cooling MTBF with various types of hoses, noise to static pressure to airflow ratios on hundreds of different fan blades from custom CAD designs, how many hours our PSU engineers have spent refining and modifying component choices to meet specific ripple or voltage regulation requirements, modification of esoteric specs like fan hysteresis, working on the mechanical designs of memory heatsinks to make sure they actually stay together and function as they're supposed to while looking good at the same time, you would understand the work required.
Yeah, we do use contract manufacturers. You have to, our industry just isn't big enough to own our own Foxconn-sized plant. But to say all we do is make warranties and stickers - man, it's just completely dishonest.
I'm sorry if I came across harsh here, but when I read comments like that I wonder why I stay up until 2am on conference calls with our manufacturers in around the world and then get up at 6am to go to work the next day and fix something as small as whether or not the fan controller on some future case can auto-sense temperature and adjust accordingly for the price point we're trying to hit.
Please give credit where it's due. A lot of people buy something off the shelf, slap a sticker on it, and call it a day. We don't do that.
It's one thing if you don't like our products. That I can respect. But don't say we're lazy or that we're just packaging somebody else's work. If you saw the raw stuff we get before we spend months (or sometimes years) improving it for the market, you'd understand why we do the things we do and why our products are more expensive than the off-the-shelf stuff you can find.
Wow, that didn't take long, now I kinda feel bad. tongue.gif Maybe I should have said it like this, at the core of manufacturing in the electronics for those devices, no, Corsair doesn't have its own facilities, but yes, there is custom design work, firmware, testing, etc. I didn't say nor even imply this was a bad thing, it's actually very difficult to find manufacturers that do everything themselves anymore. There are larger projects I don't doubt you guys do in-house, but the comment I made was only for those specific systems.

Edit; and for the record I do like the majority of Corsair products. I don't tend to acknowledge them as top-end parts, with exception to a couple PSUs, though, but overall I still like what's in the lineup across the categories. It keeps me up at night once in a while as to whether I should have gone with a Signature 850 instead of the HX850 but I knew what I was getting at the time and I still like it.
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Who makes their ssds and ram? I thought that was kinda their thing.
Various companies make the ICs on their RAM sticks, it depends on what model and revision you get. The SSDs also use several different NAND and DRAM manufacturers, but the controllers in the past have usually been Samsung and Sandforce, though they've branched out more recently. They do of course do their own firmware and casing, though.
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It's about time the Hydro coolers come with decent fans!
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