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Originally Posted by ADHDadditiv View Post

I personally own the Extreme 4, and my friend owns the Gigabyte, both are extremely solid. My system is going to be over $1600 and his is already well over $2000. And how can you not trust Gigabyte, they are one of the best mobo makers ever, next to Asus and Asrock being the best currently for overclocking.

I agree, I own the Extreme4 z77 and is a great board, very good at overclocking. I don't know why you can't trust AsRock boards.
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Going to have to agree with everyone on the AsRock boards. They are by no means a cheap alternative to ASUS boards. I will be personally obtaining a AsRock board when Haswell hits next year. Of course some people are deadset on getting some type of brand they LOVE so i won't touch that subject anymore.

Since you don't like air coolers because they are so big and don't want a custom water loop, just grab a H80-H100 and call it a day. I have the H100 and love it, ive heard the H80s are prettymuch the same, just marginally less effective. I didn't see a case in your post so i'll assume you can fit either one.

As far as graphics cards, if you wan't to get a single strong card id say the 680 for 1080p. If you want a strong single card and SLI later grab two 670s. Ive always been told "buy the best you can with the money you have now" because you'll regret ur purchase later when you want SLI 680s and alrdy have one 670. Honestly no games going to compete with either in SLI right now or for a while.
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I agree, I own the Extreme4 z77 and is a great board, very good at overclocking. I don't know why you can't trust AsRock boards.

It still has cheap VRMs...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1271002/asrock-z77-vrm-phase-cooling-badly-needed/0_20#post_17502529

Something that you won't find on any Asus/Gigabyte motherboard.

That said I have built a PC for a friend last year and I used a Z68 Extreme3 Gen3, great card all-around and very cheap. So it depends on the particular model.
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OP, I'm in the upgrade boat just like you, my new setup will be an i7 3820, evga x79 ftw lga 2011, and a gtx 670 ftw (later sli 670s). A 670 is so close to a 680 it's pointless to buy a 680 for the extra money. Just some food for thought.
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Asrock aren't owned by Asus anymore. They split with Pegasus (2004??).
I thought I'd heard recently that asus still owned them, but I guess I was wrong about that. But, they are still a budget company and I've still read reviews stating they are flimsy boards.

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Since you don't like air coolers because they are so big and don't want a custom water loop, just grab a H80-H100 and call it a day. I have the H100 and love it, ive heard the H80s are prettymuch the same, just marginally less effective. I didn't see a case in your post so i'll assume you can fit either one.
As far as graphics cards, if you wan't to get a single strong card id say the 680 for 1080p. If you want a strong single card and SLI later grab two 670s. Ive always been told "buy the best you can with the money you have now" because you'll regret ur purchase later when you want SLI 680s and alrdy have one 670. Honestly no games going to compete with either in SLI right now or for a while.

I'm actually a big fan of air coolers. The thing is that I already have a really big cooler, 140Wx102Lx162H and 860 grams without the 140mm fan attached. It cools really well and if I needed I could put another 140mm fan on there which should drop temps another few degrees. I don't need a new cooler anyway and this one makes almost zero noise. And, my case is a CM 690 which will fit a H100 i'm told, but I'm not interested in getting one.
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It still has cheap VRMs...
http://www.overclock.net/t/1271002/asrock-z77-vrm-phase-cooling-badly-needed/0_20#post_17502529
Something that you won't find on any Asus/Gigabyte motherboard.
That said I have built a PC for a friend last year and I used a Z68 Extreme3 Gen3, great card all-around and very cheap. So it depends on the particular model.
It's this type of stuff I'm worried about with cheaper boards.

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OP, I'm in the upgrade boat just like you, my new setup will be an i7 3820, evga x79 ftw lga 2011, and a gtx 670 ftw (later sli 670s). A 670 is so close to a 680 it's pointless to buy a 680 for the extra money. Just some food for thought.

Yeah, I'm liking the 670 sli option, especially since the game I intend to play most runs better on nvidia cards. If I were only planning on one card, I'd probably go with the 680, but with two i think the extra cost is just too much for me to pretend is justifiable based on the benchmarks I've seen. It really depends on the pricing at the time I actually make the purchase though, which will be about a month away. And, by then I could decide I don't need to pretend to justify the cost of 2 680's lol

Thanks again for the replies! So many responses so quickly compared to other forums I've been on.:
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157330

^ thats the board this is the cpu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117285

if you go with that wait till it goes back on sale honestly you can get any asrock board i would say any with 2x pcie 3.0 slots is fine but normally the problem with xeon chips is you cant overclock them, asrock bios that just came out lets you overclock the boost clock by 600-800mhz and that xeon i linked has performance = i5 3570k at 4.2 ghz. thats at the xeons stock non turbo clock, its base = to a i7 3770 which is pretty nasty, if you wait it usually goes on sale at like $45-50 bucks off.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157330
^ thats the board this is the cpu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117285
if you go with that wait till it goes back on sale honestly you can get any asrock board i would say any with 2x pcie 3.0 slots is fine but normally the problem with xeon chips is you cant overclock them, asrock bios that just came out lets you overclock the boost clock by 600-800mhz and that xeon i linked has performance = i5 3570k at 4.2 ghz. thats at the xeons stock non turbo clock, its base = to a i7 3770 which is pretty nasty, if you wait it usually goes on sale at like $45-50 bucks off.
Xeon is complete overkill for a gaming rig, really, you would be better off just buying a 2500k or a 3570k
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if you go with that wait till it goes back on sale honestly you can get any asrock board i would say any with 2x pcie 3.0 slots is fine but normally the problem with xeon chips is you cant overclock them, asrock bios that just came out lets you overclock the boost clock by 600-800mhz and that xeon i linked has performance = i5 3570k at 4.2 ghz. thats at the xeons stock non turbo clock, its base = to a i7 3770 which is pretty nasty, if you wait it usually goes on sale at like $45-50 bucks off.

This is basically an i7 3770 with no IGP (no to mention the very slight overclockability...), the 3770k is only $25 more so I don't really see the point with it.
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Xeon is complete overkill for a gaming rig, really, you would be better off just buying a 2500k or a 3570k

Yeah 3570k is fine as far as gaming goes for sure, the 3770k will practically make no difference.
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Thought I should do a bit of an update on this now that I've ordered everything and most of it will be here tomorrow. I've had some unexpected expenses come up, so I'm not going to be able to upgrade my gpu right now, so will be going with gtx 460 sli for a while. I got the second card free, since my brother upgraded to a 660ti, so I might as well use it. Based on benchmarks, and the fact that my e6850 was definitely holding me back a lot, I should still be really happy with performance.

I ended up going with this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-GD65 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($167.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $382.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-06 12:39 EST-0500)

And this PSU, which isn't on partpicker right now for some reason.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087

I decided on the msi board over the asus since both were the same price when I ordered them, but the extra features on the msi board were things that seemed more likely to benefit me. The memory I got because it's cheap and doesn't have ridiculous heatsinks like so much of the "performance" memory.

I went with the x750 because it was on sale for $100 and I've seen quite a few people using that power supply with gtx 680 sli and one guy that said he was using 3 way sli

Right now I'm wishing I didn't buy it though because newegg sent me the wrong one and it's been a hassle getting a replacement. I got the email that says the replacement will be sent out today though, hopefully it's the right one this time. Luckily my old psu is good enough to run the new system, just without the second graphics card.
Edited by ironfront - 12/6/12 at 10:38am
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