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Well, look what happened to the hexa-core 1366s vs. the quad-core 1155s...
It's certainly an assumption, though.

What happened with it? Hex core 980x still beats a 3770k in multithread apps.
    
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I wouldn't say incredibly rare... picked mine up from [h] for a fair price.

As long as you can keep it cool and have a decent board for power then you should be fine. It's certainly hit or miss.



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That's about what I need for 5 and I can do 5.1 at 1.48v.


I hadn't booted to 5ghz in a while, but I just did again after installing a new block. I need 1.432v for 5ghz and 1.48v for 5.1ghz. biggrin.gif
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Lets clear something up, as far as 1155 and 2011 systems go, when Haswell is released they won't be dead tech. If Haswell is released in 6 months or so the Z77 chipset will barely be around a year old, thats not old in the slightest, not even close, nomatter which way you slice it. At best I'm expecting Haswell to be 15% faster than IB with a better iGPU, neither of those are exactly earth-shattering reasons to go and buy a Haswell platform. The only thing that might sawy users is if Haswell offers up 6 or 8 core CPUs, and even then adoption for most would take 12-18 months because most users would wait to see if more software comes out / gets updated to take full advantage of the new tech, if not, most will probably skip Haswell.
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lol, my 17 920 D0 is still rocking some socks off.....haswell can wait till my i7 die!!!!
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Lets clear something up, as far as 1155 and 2011 systems go, when Haswell is released they won't be dead tech. If Haswell is released in 6 months or so the Z77 chipset will barely be around a year old, thats not old in the slightest, not even close, nomatter which way you slice it. At best I'm expecting Haswell to be 15% faster than IB with a better iGPU, neither of those are exactly earth-shattering reasons to go and buy a Haswell platform. The only thing that might sawy users is if Haswell offers up 6 or 8 core CPUs, and even then adoption for most would take 12-18 months because most users would wait to see if more software comes out / gets updated to take full advantage of the new tech, if not, most will probably skip Haswell.

Except Intel has said that haswell will only go up to 4 cores... and it's going to be on 1150 socket, of which the mobo might not be able to be used on broadwell since broadwell will be going MCP. So yeah, lol.

And um, 1366 hex cores are still absolute beasts. So there is that as well. lol.
 
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Lets clear something up, as far as 1155 and 2011 systems go, when Haswell is released they won't be dead tech. If Haswell is released in 6 months or so the Z77 chipset will barely be around a year old, thats not old in the slightest, not even close, nomatter which way you slice it. At best I'm expecting Haswell to be 15% faster than IB with a better iGPU, neither of those are exactly earth-shattering reasons to go and buy a Haswell platform. The only thing that might sawy users is if Haswell offers up 6 or 8 core CPUs, and even then adoption for most would take 12-18 months because most users would wait to see if more software comes out / gets updated to take full advantage of the new tech, if not, most will probably skip Haswell.

One year might not make it old per se but Intel moving on to a new socket will kill of 1155 while LGA2011 is known to be receiving 8C/16T cpus late next years and is here for a bit longer. Even if Haswell tech offers 6/8 cores (which there might be , though doubtful) they might never make it to the mainstream platform kinda like no 6C on 1155. LGA is more future proof and will be around longer than 1155 with Broadwell, that's not to say it will become unusable tech but it will be ended by Intel's new socket.

I'd still rather have an 980X vs any SB/Ivy cpu today............
Edited by Junkboy - 10/25/12 at 5:26pm
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Lucky smile.gif. Now where are my fans? biggrin.gif

Sitting in my back seat tongue.gif
 
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The IVY delay was acutely down to intel having a back stock of sandy mobile chips to get rid of.

No it was delayed because of issues with 22nm

http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/27/2827175/ivy-bridge-delay-confirmed-intel-executive-manufacturing-process
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One year might not make it old per se but Intel moving on to a new socket will kill of 1155 while LGA2011 is known to be receiving 8C/16T cpus late next years and is here for a bit longer. Even if Haswell tech offers 6/8 cores (which there might be , though doubtful) they might never make it to the mainstream platform kinda like no 6C on 1155. LGA is more future proof and will be around longer than 1155 with Broadwell, that's not to say it will become unusable tech but it will be ended by Intel's new socket.
I'd still rather have an 980X vs any SB/Ivy cpu today............

I still think broadwell is when intel will give us 6 cores on mainstream. Actually intel could give us 5 cores and i'd be happy.
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I am willing to wait till haswell launches, and me getting a 3930K or even IB-E @ reduced price...I never had issues getting something "second best", especially when this translates to vastly increased value for me hard-to-come-by monies. Thus having bought a 3820 for $200 I feel hardly lagging or less capable than any IB or future haswell owner...for the money invested, I think I am doing pretty well. Actually I've paid around $30 more than getting a i7-3770K + a P8Z77-V Pro (at least that was early Sep, when I got mine) - thanks MC...

I don't know what the OP mainly uses his rig for, but if he is doing heavily multithreaded stuff (aka not gaming) it is safe to assume that a 6-core SB-E (with the possible upgrade to a 6C/12T or if we are lucky and such comes out 8C/16T IB-E) will be faster than a Haswell 4C/8T - at least for the threaded portion of most apps.

Now, the best source for a 5GHz chip, is probably getting it used from someone you trust that had it running that way @ around the Vcore you care to use and using the cooling you are willing to invest in.
I understand that good chips are hard to come by, and 5GHz (or anything <4.8GHz actually) is not something you get off the shelves without serious volts...
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What happened with it? Hex core 980x still beats a 3770k in multithread apps.

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Those 1366 hexacores were still holding their own at the top end of rigs. Look at the old Top 30 Heaven Bench and Metro threads.

I'm reasonably certain even the 2600Ks were beating the i7-980X in most benchmarks, multi-threaded or not, at stock clocks. At their respective maximum overclocks I don't think the hexacores were competitive.

Though yes, the hexacores still held their own for some PCI-E situations like gaming due to bandwith limitations on the less-"enthusiast" 1155 platform.
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