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This is the kind of thing I'm talking about. There are many different explanations from different vendors, including Microsoft.

http://promotions.newegg.com/microsoft/windows8/LM_systembuilders.html
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Here is something that I'd like for someone to clarify. I cannot find a good reference to discuss the licensing. From what I understand, any of the current Windows 8 products are not transferrable to another machine. So, since this is OCN, what happens when we start upgrading to the next gen CPU/Mobo and rebuild our systems? Do we need to buy a new copy of Windows 8 also? As far as I can tell there is no system builder licensing available yet.

System Builder is available on Newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416552

System Builder is basically the new name for 'OEM' from what I gather.
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I also emailed Microsoft Turkey few days back and they insisted that for clean install, purchasing a new Windows 8 key is a must,

 

But here I am with the upgrade doing a clean install.

 

However I doubht that this will work if i ever change my primary boot drive. But i am not stating a fact or anything

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I also emailed Microsoft Turkey few days back and they insisted that for clean install, purchasing a new Windows 8 key is a must,

 

But here I am with the upgrade doing a clean install.

 

However I doubht that this will work if i ever change my primary boot drive. But i am not stating a fact or anything

Could this process work on a clean drive? I'm wondering if I can save some money by just buying the upgrade and installing.

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Hey kilzon,

Why not just give it a shot and you can be the first to confirm. I was going to secure erase my ssd before installing Win 8, which is essentially the scenario you refer to.
I'll bet it will work. I am convinced though that the Upgrade Advisor part of the purchase is where Validation takes place. So buy it on a valid PC and put in your new one.
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Could this process work on a clean drive? I'm wondering if I can save some money by just buying the upgrade and installing.

I really doubt so.

 

I believe that if someone purchases the upgrade he/she must use it first on a HDD where some version of the previous Windows 7 was installed.

 

I would love to get a feedback that a person whom purchased the key used it and did a clean install in another drive actually.

 

Sorry if I missed someone writing that.

post #27 of 46
Actually I think it's a combination of things. This is my personal take and in a way iARDAs already confirmed this from his previous posts.

You should be able to download and burn the upgrade iso to disk. Format your hard drive so there is nothing on it. Now you would be doing a fresh install of Win8 however since the install didn't recognize that there was a previous Windows directory it doesn't flag it as being activated. Now that you have it installed run the upgrade process from the disk, basically updating Win8 to Win8. It will now recognize that there's a windows directory and flag you as activated.
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Actually I think it's a combination of things. This is my personal take and in a way iARDAs already confirmed this from his previous posts.
You should be able to download and burn the upgrade iso to disk. Format your hard drive so there is nothing on it. Now you would be doing a fresh install of Win8 however since the install didn't recognize that there was a previous Windows directory it doesn't flag it as being activated. Now that you have it installed run the upgrade process from the disk, basically updating Win8 to Win8. It will now recognize that there's a windows directory and flag you as activated.

That's what I think too. Good way to put it out there.

 

So in the future maybe if i get a new hard drive, the only way to do it would be to install the iso disk that is burned first. 99% the CD key won't be recognized. Than run the setup wizard while in Windows and re install Windows 8 once more. This time the CD key Works.

 

Wierd but this is what happened to me.

 

This time i did have a folder called Windows.old.

 

maybe thats the trick.

 

Edit :

 

I also believe that the upgrade file and the regular Windows 8 files are the same in every way.


We just buy an upgrade CD key thats it. At least that's how I see it.

 

Edit 2 ;

 

First time I installed the Windows 8, it asked me for a CD key when Windows 8 installation was complete.

 

Second time that I installed Win8 on Win8 via the setup wizard on desktop, this time the wizard ask me for the key BEFORE installing Win 8 for the 2nd time. WHen I copied the CD key, the wizard said that my CD key was good to go for an upgrade.

 

It's just wierd because technically upgrading to Windows 8 pro from Windows 8 pro shouldn't work according to Microsoft. They said that the upgrade would only be possible with Windows 7 or below.


Edited by iARDAs - 10/26/12 at 3:03pm
post #29 of 46
Yeah basically I think the auto activation is based upon if the install sees a Windows directory, not Windows.old. Then when you perform the upgrade it basically installs on top of it's self and now sees a Windows directory thus flagging you as activated.

If I wasn't putting my new system together this weekend I'd try this. Perhaps when I'm leak testing on Sunday I'll give this a go. I'm quite certain this is how it works though.
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It's just wierd because technically upgrading to Windows 8 pro from Windows 8 pro shouldn't work according to Microsoft. They said that the upgrade would only be possible with Windows 7 or below.

Because technically Win8 to Win8 isn't an upgrade, it's a re-install.
Edited by ColdFusionWi - 10/26/12 at 3:05pm
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Hey kilzon,
Why not just give it a shot and you can be the first to confirm. I was going to secure erase my ssd before installing Win 8, which is essentially the scenario you refer to.
I'll bet it will work. I am convinced though that the Upgrade Advisor part of the purchase is where Validation takes place. So buy it on a valid PC and put in your new one.

I probably will over this weekend. I'm sure by then some other people will have reported the success/failure of this particular method but I'll probably try it anyway. Even if it doesn't work at first glance I'm sure someone will find a workaround similar to the workarounds for clean installing Win 7.

Good info though, thanks guys. I'll report back after I give it a go.
Edited by Kilzon - 10/26/12 at 3:15pm
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