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Yea you only get those prices of you bought an earlier version. If you don't recall, most softwares include some kind of price break for previous users when they update. So you're arguing with your self. Stop arguing with yourself. Stop arguing with yourself.

So wait, you mean to tell me that 92% of the pc's being used right now AREN'T Windows? You mean the general public DOESN'T buy prebuilt computers? You mean to tell me that at least 99% of the people who would buy Windows 8 AREN'T already using some version of windows that can be upgraded? You mean... ok yeah, think I made my point. The fact is, EVERYONE buying Windows 8 can get it for at least $40, and MOST can get it for $15, so my point is still perfectly valid.
 
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Oh I guess the general public doesn't upgrade their hardware either. I guess my perspective on computing has been spoiled by OCN. This is fun I like this. edit: sarcasm that is.
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Oh I guess the general public doesn't upgrade their hardware either. I guess my perspective on computing has been spoiled by OCN. This is fun I like this.

It has been spoiled lol. The general public DOESN'T upgrade their hardware, they buy a new PC. But with Win8 being so cheap, and being able to upgrade from XP, Vista, and 7, will get more of the general public to buy it. And face it, the biggest percentage of Win8 copies will be sold to the general public, as plainly shown by the nearly unanimous hate from the folks here at OCN. But the fact still remains $15, even $40, is ridiculously cheap. You're getting an OS for less than a new game. The argument was with his point that "Windows is expensive". It USED to be, but not now. You can't include the cost of old versions in the argument that an OS is expensive. You don't go expecting to get a discount on a new GTX680 simply because you bought a 580 do you? If $15, or even $40 is 'too expensive' for you, you have serious money issues. That was my point, and it's still perfectly valid.
 
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people with no experience with PC's
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Stop arguing with yourself.
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You guys just love to argue for the sake of arguing without actually adressing the points, don't you ?
Fine, except you didn't address my point:
I already addressed that, $15 is just for people who bought a PC with Windows 7 in the last months, for everyone else it's $39.99. If you're going to spend $39.99 on an OS upgrade you might want to consider an SSD upgrade for $49.99 or $54.99, which is arguably a much better speed improvement than Windows 8. And yes, I provided links for those two examples in a previous post. And prices are coming down even more. Intel's new 21nm 335 series has already been spotted in Japan, new models are coming out, Samsung just released the 840 series, etc, bringing prices down.
No, you just need to read the answer I gave Manyak in this post.
Edit: as to using using copy and paste from the context menu, we agree, and that is why you should also read posts #36 and #45 to understand what I'm saying.

No it's not. I got two copies for $15 each and I haven't bought a computer since I bought my laptop over 2 years ago. And if you're going to by an SSD, why would you cheap out and get one for $40-60, get one for $100 that's at least 128gb. So in this case his point is completely valid.

May I ask how you managed to buy two copies in those circumstances for $15 without providing Microsoft with false data ? And think before you answer. Admitting to giving false data in order to get an advantage is against the TOS of this forum.

As to the SSDs, you have to be kidding. 60 GB for $49.99 or 120 - 128 GB for $100, it's a toss-up, it depends on your budget and needs. A 60 GB SSD is enough to install the OS. Some people will want more in order to install more programs, but that costs twice as much too.
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No, you didn't. I'm raising the issue that Windows 8 UI is crap to use with a mouse and you agree, and I have already quoted myself from a previous thread where I list a lot of useful shortcuts, so we agree that usiing keyboard shortcuts can indeed be very useful and make using the OS faster.
What you seem to ignore is the fact that for a lot of people there is a point of diminishing returns in having to learn an excessive number of keyboard shortcuts (with the aggravant that in this case they are specific to Windows 8 and not universal like 12 of the keyboard shortcuts that I listed) to accomplish things which could arguably have been just as fast to do with a mouse. Taking away choice when Windows 7 worked just as well with keyboard shortcuts for those who wanted or mouse for those who wanted is not a good thing.

I completely agree that the UI is crap, and that navigating with the mouse was faster before. And it gets even slower as your screen gets larger, and is a complete failure for multiple monitor setups. And I also agree that they should have left the old UI functionality in, even if it needed a registry "hack" to enable it.

However this is completely unrelated to having windows-specific keyboard shortcuts. Every OS has specific shortcuts and commands that only they use. Complaining about having too many specific shortcuts is like complaining that there are too many specific command line apps in Linux. Memorize the ones you want, forget about the ones you don't, and that's it. The fact that you're "forced" to use these commands to navigate Windows 8 with any sort of speed isn't what's screwing you. It's the horrible GUI, plain and simple.

So you basically agree with me, except for the fact that you think that it's Windows 8's UI that is the problem and not the keyboard shortcuts I have to learn in order to get around that. How can you disconnect one thing from the other ?

I'm not complaining about there being too many OS specific keyboard shortcuts, it's fine for those who want to use them and they don't get in the way for those who don't, we all agree with that, the difference between you and me is that for me those additional keyboard shortcuts that didn't get in the way before are now an unwanted necessity in order to get around the crap UI.

If the computer happens to be a LAPTOP (and most PCs are) they're going to have to fork out for a 256, which is 5x more expensive than the general upgrade and over 10x as much as the "cheat" upgrade. Think again.
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=hardware
Stop arguing with yourself.

You know, did you actually read the post I originally quoted? Or do you just like being a dick? The post I quoted, the poster said Windows was expensive (when right now it's clearly not) and said Win8 would come in dead last vs win7 and linux in a comparison test with people who have no major experience using PCs. So no, I'm not arguing with myself, I'm arguing with another forum member, and you're watching from the sidelines and acting like a douche because you've only seen one side.

Here, I'll even quote it again just for you
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People keep going all around the world about workarounds and ways to make W8 work like W7. The bottom line is Windows isn't cheap - people shouldn't have to use 3rd party software to make the most expensive software in the world usable.
Take a group of people with no serious PC experience and do a clean slate competition with Win7, Win8, and Linux/KDE and I bet Win8 comes in last.

Apparently to him, $15 for the OS and $5 for a program to get Win8 looking like Win7 is, and I quote "The most expensive software in the world."

If you honestly think someone with no experience using PCs would find either Win7 or Linux easier to use than Win8, you're so far beyond delusional it's funny. I've been tinkering with pcs since I was 12 and even I can see why Microsoft went with Metro. Even most computer-illiterate people use some form of smartphone, be it android/iOs/winphone, whatever, and they would easily be able to pick up the Metro UI. That said I don't use it, I use my 'most expensive software in the world' that I got for $20 total and it looks just like Win7.
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Apparently to him, $15 for the OS and $5 for a program to get Win8 looking like Win7 is, and I quote "The most expensive software in the world."
If you honestly think someone with no experience using PCs would find either Win7 or Linux easier to use than Win8, you're so far beyond delusional it's funny. I've been tinkering with pcs since I was 12 and even I can see why Microsoft went with Metro. Even most computer-illiterate people use some form of smartphone, be it android/iOs/winphone, whatever, and they would easily be able to pick up the Metro UI. That said I don't use it, I use my 'most expensive software in the world' that I got for $20 total and it looks just like Win7.

Average people don't upgrade their own Windows for many reasons (not even including their tech guru telling them that the new version is a toy and a frankenstein, or whatever.
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it looks just like Win7.
). They get a new computer, or a refurb, or a custom built. And since the need to do that is not necessary at this junction what with hardware being far ahead of software as it is, this will not happen just because a new Windows came out. They will wait until "everything is slow" again, and buy a new system with the highest tagged consumer software (ever) installed on it, eating into the price-point and lowering the quality of the rest of the system. So NotUrAverageJoe's point has already trumped yours, and your attempt at claiming to side with the people with no PC experience has galvanized it even further against your "get with the times" attitude. So you may not be arguing with yourself but you are arguing against yourself. Stop that. It causes unnecessary stress.

edit: Besides. Do you think regular people will read this article? No, they read Yahoo and Google and online versions of their favorite mainstream newspaper.

Last edit: I also find it a stress relief that I no longer feel the need to have the last word, as I did when I was growing up with a house full of sisters.
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Average people don't upgrade their own Windows for many reasons (not even including their tech guru telling them that the new version is a toy and a frankenstein, or whatever. ). They get a new computer, or a refurb, or a custom built. And since the need to do that is not necessary at this junction what with hardware being far ahead of software as it is, this will not happen just because a new Windows came out. They will wait until "everything is slow" again, and buy a new system with the highest tagged consumer software (ever) installed on it, eating into the price-point and lowering the quality of the rest of the system. So NotUrAverageJoe's point has already trumped yours, and your attempt at claiming to side with the people with no PC experience has galvanized it even further against your "get with the times" attitude. So you may not be arguing with yourself but you are arguing against yourself. Stop that. It causes unnecessary stress.
edit: Besides. Do you think regular people will read this article? No, they read Yahoo and Google and online versions of their favorite mainstream newspaper.

And you're still failing to see my point as your post clearly shows. You're STILL looking at this from the old Windows perspective. Windows used to be upwards of $100, People just didn't want to pay that, and didn't want to deal with it so they went out and spent a few hundred on a new system. This isn't a 'get with the times' argument. Clearly MS has gone the route of 'let's not try to make the common user learn something new, let's give them a style they're familiar with, and a very cheap price point and maybe we can get them to upgrade'. The tablet interface is there to attract the average person that uses a smartphone with a similar interface, not us here on OCN. I used to work in PC sales and I'd hear customers talking about it all the time, they were interested in Win8 from what they'd seen. And these are the people who had no idea what you meant if you said CPU or gigahertz, or that didn't know the difference between memory and hard drive space. You said it yourself, OCN has skewed your view on the average consumer, and it clearly has if you cannot see that for the average person, Win8 with Metro is a big plus.

Not once did I say it was a good idea for US. The average person can now easily upgrade an aging system to Win8 with the upgrade assistant that makes everything painless, at a cost of $15 to $40 when they are used to seeing $100+. The average person is going to be much more inclined to actually do this themselves, or have someone they know do it for them, than they are to go drop another few hundred bucks.

Stop looking at it with 5-10 years ago glasses and actually view it from the common person's eyes and you'll see what MS was going for.

I'm not arguing against myself. If this had been 5 years ago, yes. But now it's not. We don't have to get with the times, we like what we like. MS got with the common person's times for Win8.
 
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You can't disable UAC completely via control panel, and if you do disable it fully you lose some metro functionality. Also you can't add shortcuts to .bat files (among other more 'advanced' stuff) to the start panel.

I dare to guess none of that affects well north of 99% of users, including the ones on this site - though especially people not active on any tech niche site such as this.

For close to all users, this all boils down to the UI Formerly Known As Metro (Prince anyone?), and there are simplistic ways of reverting this change. With that nuisance out of the way, you're left with all of the optimizations and other UI improvements.

People who whine about the people "whining" about the whiners (in no way referring to anyone specific) would be flatly ignorant in trying to assume most people who are whining about Windows 8 aren't just doing it for the sake of bandwagoning and having very low acceptance for change, in spite of the change being minimal here in almost all cases - honestly close to non-existent from a UI standpoint.

There are clearly legitimate reasons, as you mentioned, for not liking Windows 8. I concede this point and have never fought against that. I'm just saying that most people who say the word "tablet" over and over, or, worse still, give no reason at all in their refusal, aren't forming an opinion with any legitimate grounding in research or personal experience with the OS.
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Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
256GB Samsung 840 Pro + RAID1 2TB 7200 Hitachis LG 6X Blu-ray Burner Corsair H100i Windows 7 x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VG236HE XArmor U9BL-S Enermax Galaxy Evo 1250W Corsair 600T 
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Logitech G500 SteelSeries 5L O2DAC -> Corsair SP2500 (or O2 amp and Beyerdyn... 
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