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This is my first post here, I registered because in my search this forum seemed very knowledgeable. As the title states, I'm on a quest for the perfect mouse (for me). Unfortunately based on my criteria I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist. However, maybe people here can help eliminate some possibilities for me. I've used a lot of mice over the years and have learned what I do and don't like:

-I have large-ish hands

-I use a palm grip HOWEVER I use my ring finger to press the right mouse button, with my middle finger on the scroll wheel

-I like mice with a very gradual slope in the back OR ones that are meant to fit my hand (like the MS comfort 4500)

-I highly prefer having at least one button for each finger (including pinky)

-I dislike glossy coating on mice

-I want a wired mouse

-I do twitch gaming, but not that competitively, 1600dpi or above is probably fine for me

-I'm not too picky about features, as long as I can map the extra mice buttons to keyboard keys


By far the biggest criteria for me is finding a mice that's very comfortable to me AND is functional. I think a lot of the comfort factor has to do with the slope of the mouse. I've drafted up a small diagram here as to what is comfy for me:

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MICE I'VE FOUND COMFORTABLE (with other problems):


Microsoft Laser Mouse 6000 (wired):
++great shape, comfortable
-glossy coating
-awful side button positioning

Microsoft Comfort Mouse 4500
++Extremely comfortable mouse
+good button placement
-crappy placement of sensor at bottom of mouse, making everything feel awkward

Belkin 5 button mouse:
++One of the most comfortable mice I've used (shape is very similar to Microsoft Intellimouse Optical I believe)
-occasional sensor bugs
-went through 2 of them, cheap construction, tend to die

Microsoft Comfort Mouse 6000:
++seemed very comfortable in store
-no right side button
-read a review saying it has severe angle snapping and scroll wheel issues



MICE I'VE FOUND NOT AS COMFORTABLE:


Thermaltake Black Element Mouse (currently using)
+very nice responsiveness
+like the rubber coating a lot
+decent button placement
-shape is so-so, bit much of a hump in the back, feels a bit small

Steelseries Xai:
+buttons for each finger
+dpi switch is nice
~mouse shape not quite as nice as intellimouse optical (or maybe my memory is bad)
-scroll wheel died in under a year

Cyborg RAT 7:
+love the horizontal scroll wheel
-couldn't change slope of the palm rest to be more gradual without removing it (then the bare metal would hurt my hand)
-had strange twitchy stuff happen with the sensor
-no right side button

Corsair M90:
-shape wasn't that great
-thumb buttons too stiff
-no right side button

Cooler Master Sentinel Advance II:
-shape not as comfy as reviews led to believe (not awful, not great)
-buttons too high above from thumb (I like easier access)
-no right side button

Cyber Snipa Silencer:
-Simply too small for my hands
-no right side button

Every Logitech mouse I've tried out in stores:
-Feels okay, but not great
-usually no right side button



POTENTIAL MICE CANDIDATES:


Razer Taipan:
+looks like good button placement, promising shape
-May be too small / possibly not any comfier than the Xai

Microsoft Intellimouse Optical 1.1
+Pretty sure I'm going to like the shape
-May not have good specs for a modern day monitor (probably need higher dpi than I used to use)

Microsoft Sidewinder X3
+shape looks good
-looks like terrible side button positioning

Gigabyte Thor M7
+Shape could be very good
-no right side buttons
-not out yet

CM Storm Recon:
+Looks like good button placement
-not sure how comfy it is
-maybe too small?

Ozone Xenon:
+good button placement
-may not be comfy


Feel free to give your input or recommend something else, I've been wracking my brain on this for a while.
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Out of what's out right now the closest I can think of to the Laser Mouse howevermanythousand would be the Zowie AM, but you can't remap its buttons and only two side buttons are active at a time. "BST" is starting up a company making a mouse known as Ninox, their Aurora seems like what you're looking for.
    
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Recon probably has the best sensor out of the potential candidates. You may want to look at the Roccat Savu and the Logitech G400 too.
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Originally Posted by Phos View Post

Out of what's out right now the closest I can think of to the Laser Mouse howevermanythousand would be the Zowie AM, but you can't remap its buttons and only two side buttons are active at a time. "BST" is starting up a company making a mouse known as Ninox, their Aurora seems like what you're looking for.
I'm a little confused by the BST mouse. It looks like the official version will be like this:



no right side button, kind of a dell shaped mouse, not really something I'm interested in. However, if I scroll, down they show this prototype picture where they're worried about copying the intellimouse too much:



Hell yeah I'd try out a mouse like that.
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When I used the Intellimouse long ago I never felt it was a bad shape like I do with the DeathAdder. I don't think I have them around any more to see how they feel to me these days. I don't want to buy them again for the sake of comparison as I will not get anything from that personally. Rather buy mouse pads than an archaic mouse.

I do not see a problem with taking inspiration from a previous mouse shape. A hand is a hand, a wheel is a wheel. It other words, what is wrong with using an obvious design.

When I compare the DeathAdder and the Zowie EC2, mice that both take inspiration from the Intellimouse Explorer 3, it is amazing how they can be so different. The dimensions are very similar but differ is the gradients and angles.

The DeathAdder slopes up more aggressively and has a higher peak than the Zowie EC2. Actually the DeathAdder is more aggressive in almost every area. The right side of the mouse is slightly rounded towards the rear, but starts to straighten out in the middle aggressively (again). All these exaggerated angles are not conducive to the comfort of the human hand and wrist. It appears as if the shape was designed for aesthetics.

Whereas the EC2 feels more like someone put their hands on it before their eyes. Although I feel the EC2 could be better in some areas. The right side could have an "indent" shaped more for the small finger instead of just be rounded until the front. The left side could be straighter from the middle to the front and not bow out as much. The left mouse button could also be wider to use two fingers easily without hitting the wheel. The side buttons could be smaller and farther forward.

The problem with that mouse from the BST post above is that it tapers to aggressively in the middle and the main buttons are too narrow. I think a better design would be very much like the Intellimouse Optical. Maybe have the rear not as wide by a few millimeters, have a groove/indent shaped for the small finger, place 2 side buttons (instead of one) forward and high enough to clear your finger. The apex could be back a little to support you knuckles, then start to slope downwards as you fingers naturally do. You could have 2 sizes for longer and shorter fingers as the front of the mouse would be more extended. The rear width doesn't have to change if you get a right width and have a good taper from the bottom upwards.
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