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Makes sense, the Google Nexus was a big profit point for Verizon. If someone unlocks it and brings it to a Sprint store, well, Verizon just lost out on their customer.

That's like buying a Halo 4 and playing it on a PS3. Xbox's exclusives are why (among other reasons...) people buy xboxs...
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this can only happen in the USA

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Lol true. The country where a media association is more important than anything.


I'll kindly ask you to refrain from generalizing about my country if you're not going to do it intelligently or accurately. The USA is not the only country where phones can be carrier-locked, nor is the media association "more important than anything". We've all got national issues, including the Netherlands and Spain, so let's try demonstrating a little critical thought on a tech forum, hm?

I have no problem with comments criticizing the USA personally. IMO it crosses the line when all Americans are generalized, because some of us aren't idiots absorbed in pop culture without a care for anything important in the world who stand by while we get raped by large corporations and their puppets in the government.
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It was illegal the first time i did it and will be illegal the second time i do it!
     
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http://www.technewsdaily.com/16514-unlocking-cellphones-becomes-illegal.html?
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The clock to unlock a new mobile phone is running out.

In October 2012, the Librarian of Congress, who determines exemptions to a strict anti-hacking law called the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), decided that unlocking mobile phones would no longer be allowed. But the librarian provided a 90-day window during which people could still buy a phone and unlock it. That window closes on January 26.

Unlocking a phone frees it from restrictions that keep the device from working on more than one carrier's network, allowing it run on other networks that use the same wireless standard. This can be useful to international travellers who need their phones to work on different networks. Other people just like the freedom of being able to switch carriers as they please.

The new rule against unlocking phones won't be a problem for everybody, though. For example, Verizon's iPhone 5 comes out of the box already unlocked, and AT&T will unlock a phone once it is out of contract.

You can also pay full-price for a phone, not the discounted price that comes with a two-year service contract, to receive the device unlocked from the get-go. Apple sells an unlocked iPhone 5 starting at $649, and Google sells its Nexus 4 unlocked for $300. [See also: Can I Get a Smartphone Without a Contract?]

Advocacy group the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) questions whether the DMCA has the right to determine who can unlock a phone. In an email to TechNewsDaily, EFF attorney Mitch Stoltz said, "Arguably, locking phone users into one carrier is not at all what the DMCA was meant to do. It's up to the courts to decide."

If you do buy a new phone and want to unlock it before the deadline, you must first ask your carrier if the company will unlock your phone for you. The DMCA only permits you to unlock your phone yourself once you've asked your carrier first.
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Theres laws, and then there's what people do. Arrest me for unlocking my phone that I own and see what happens to you.
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Lol, the DMCA is about copyright, not unlocking a phone. And Also, I don't see the issue carriers have, nor are they the property of the carrier in the first place. Where is the "Copyright" issue?

When you get a carrier subsidised phone the price of it is ALWAYS covered in the price of the contract (unless you're renewing, in which case CSA's can throw deals at you to get you to stay). Secondly, you're locked into a legally binding contract that say you pay them $X.XX a month for a set number of months. So even if you got a phone with Sprint, and unlocked it to AT&T and used an AT&T contract, you still owe Sprint money each month... So where is the losing out part?

Finally, what's the rubbish about the phone being their property?! I know for a fact here in the UK the phone is free and yours. YOu simply owe them the money for the contact. My contract is £33 a month, for 24 months...£792 which more than covers the cost of my contact and phone. So, the phone is mine from the word go, especially since I'm legally liable for that £792 regardless of whether I pay them because they can have me handed to a court and the court CAN get the money.
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Just buy an unlocked phone like I did. Nexus 4 for £240 + any SIM only contract I want still works out cheaper over the year than £35-£40 a month for a new phone on a 24 month contract thumb.gif
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Yeah seriously. We paid for our electronics, let us do whatever we want next. I wonder what absurd law they're going to think of doing next, "let's ban overclocking computers?"

You just compared apples to oranges.

People overclock their CPUs for one reason: Performance.
People unlock their phones for a lot of reasons.

If I were a phone company.. I wouldn't want anyone unlocking a phone.

Why? People use it to get free stuff. They use it to circumvent spending money. They brick phones and then ask for replacements. Should we continue?

The day that people use their overclocked CPUs to play video games for free you will see motherboards get locked.

Am I saying I agree? I'm not commenting on it, but the "reason" is valid.
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Yeah seriously. We paid for our electronics, let us do whatever we want next. I wonder what absurd law they're going to think of doing next, "let's ban overclocking computers?"

You just compared apples to oranges.

People overclock their CPUs for one reason: Performance.
People unlock their phones for a lot of reasons.

If I were a phone company.. I wouldn't want anyone unlocking a phone.

Why? People use it to get free stuff. They use it to circumvent spending money. They brick phones and then ask for replacements. Should we continue?

The day that people use their overclocked CPUs to play video games for free you will see motherboards get locked.

Am I saying I agree? I'm not commenting on it, but the "reason" is valid.

Conforming to let them limit these types of things just makes it that much easier for them to screw you over.

I understand not replacing the phone when people bricks them, but you limit the product I bought, that I own, you go over the line.


Hell, Intel offers special warranties for overclockers, thank god there are still some good companies.

BTW, I don't get what you're getting at with saying playing games for free with overclocked CPUs but that already happens.
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You just compared apples to oranges.

People overclock their CPUs for one reason: Performance.
People unlock their phones for a lot of reasons.

If I were a phone company.. I wouldn't want anyone unlocking a phone.

Why? People use it to get free stuff. They use it to circumvent spending money. They brick phones and then ask for replacements. Should we continue?

The day that people use their overclocked CPUs to play video games for free you will see motherboards get locked.

Am I saying I agree? I'm not commenting on it, but the "reason" is valid.

On on earth do people unlock phones to avoid spending money? If you get a phone on a contract and unlock it, your contract doesn't magically disappear.

IF you are going to try and make an argument FOR this then what is wrong with you?!
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