Overclock.net › Forums › Software, Programming and Coding › Operating Systems › Why not buy XP MCE & upgrade to Vista l8r?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Why not buy XP MCE & upgrade to Vista l8r?

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Just started looking into OS today for my upcoming (Jan/Feb) DX10 build.

What I see is this:
Vista Premium MSRP = $239
Vista Ultimate MSRP = $399

Today I can buy XP MCE from neweg for $110 which includes a coupon for a free upgrade to Vista Premium. I can buy the MCE today and wait till Feb to build my rig and upgrade then (saving $130). Am I mis-interpreting this??

Also, people here seem to have a hard-on for Ultimate. The only additional features of ultimate over premium are : native backups and some encryption and remote desktop. Did I miss anything there? I have backup SW and I can connect to my work via VPN and VNC.

Seems to me like the best path is XP MCE followed by free upgrade to Premium. Thoughts?

EDIT : Looks like what newegg is selling is misleading. Apparently the upgrade to Vista require you to submit your PC serial number to make sure its from an authorized builder (eg Dell etc). The newegg web-chat person did not want to answer any questions in regard to this product (surprising). So right now I think I'll just wait for the OEM Vista version. If anyone has some information to the contrary please let me know.
Lateralus
(16 items)
 
Camera Gear
(8 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-3770K Gigabyte UD5H EVGA GTX980 SC GAMING 4GB ACX 2.0+ G.Skill Ripjaws X series 16GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 3 x WD Black 1TB ASUS 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 64-bit Pro Dell U2412M Saitek Eclipse Seasonic X-850 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Lian-Li PC-A70F Logitech G5 Icemat Schiit Bifrost Uber -> MF X-Can v3 -> Senn HD650  
  hide details  
Reply
Lateralus
(16 items)
 
Camera Gear
(8 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-3770K Gigabyte UD5H EVGA GTX980 SC GAMING 4GB ACX 2.0+ G.Skill Ripjaws X series 16GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 3 x WD Black 1TB ASUS 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 64-bit Pro Dell U2412M Saitek Eclipse Seasonic X-850 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Lian-Li PC-A70F Logitech G5 Icemat Schiit Bifrost Uber -> MF X-Can v3 -> Senn HD650  
  hide details  
Reply
post #2 of 19
Thats what I was thinking as well. Anybody care to fill us in?
post #3 of 19
http://www.ncix.com/go/?vistaupgrade

It's a Canadian site but it would be the same for you guys
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Opteron 148 DFI Ultra-D EVGA 7600GT KO 2x512mb Patriot LLK(TCCD) 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
250GB Samsung SP2504C XP SP2 17" CRT Zippy GSM-6600P 600W 
Case
Centurion 5 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Opteron 148 DFI Ultra-D EVGA 7600GT KO 2x512mb Patriot LLK(TCCD) 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
250GB Samsung SP2504C XP SP2 17" CRT Zippy GSM-6600P 600W 
Case
Centurion 5 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 19
yea that probably sounds like a good plan. I personally don't really want vista that soon but if you want vista, go for it!
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Duo e6600 Gigabyte Ga-965p DS3 Evga 7900gt 512mb Corsair XMS 2gb ddr2 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
WD 300gb Win Xp Pro/Linux ViewSonic 22" Widescreen Saitek Eclipse 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
FSP Group FX600-GLN ATX12 AeroCool ExtremeEngine3T Logitech G7 My epic dual mousepds 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Duo e6600 Gigabyte Ga-965p DS3 Evga 7900gt 512mb Corsair XMS 2gb ddr2 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
WD 300gb Win Xp Pro/Linux ViewSonic 22" Widescreen Saitek Eclipse 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
FSP Group FX600-GLN ATX12 AeroCool ExtremeEngine3T Logitech G7 My epic dual mousepds 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by boredom View Post
http://www.ncix.com/go/?vistaupgrade

It's a Canadian site but it would be the same for you guys
They have the same chart listed on newegg somewhere as well. I think we're trying to figure out why theres so much of a price difference, if you get a free upgrade as opposed to outright buying it.
post #6 of 19
The difference is the actual Vista op system with multiple uses and ability to reformat. The mce upgraded to vista is a one time upgrade on whatever machine you have mce...

(if I am wrong let me know)
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 ASUS P5B-Deluxe eVGA 8800GT 512mb 4gb [2x2] G.Skill DDR2 1000 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
320gb Seagate Barracuda + 160gb LG DVDRW Windows Vista Ultimate x64 MAG 19" Widescreen 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech S510 Wireless 600w OCZ GameXStream Gigabyte 3D Aurora Logitech G5 [Second Revision] 
Mouse Pad
Black 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 ASUS P5B-Deluxe eVGA 8800GT 512mb 4gb [2x2] G.Skill DDR2 1000 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
320gb Seagate Barracuda + 160gb LG DVDRW Windows Vista Ultimate x64 MAG 19" Widescreen 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech S510 Wireless 600w OCZ GameXStream Gigabyte 3D Aurora Logitech G5 [Second Revision] 
Mouse Pad
Black 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 19
what about regualr XP, if i have that installed, will Vista just be an upgrade?
Main
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 840T MSI K9A2 CF-F ATI HD4870X2  4gb OCZ SLI(2X2gb) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Maxtor 250gb + 500gb SATA LG Blu-Ray/HD-DVD SATA Win7 64bit 19" wide Samsung 
PowerMouse
CoolMaster 650W Logitech Laser cordless 
  hide details  
Reply
Main
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 840T MSI K9A2 CF-F ATI HD4870X2  4gb OCZ SLI(2X2gb) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Maxtor 250gb + 500gb SATA LG Blu-Ray/HD-DVD SATA Win7 64bit 19" wide Samsung 
PowerMouse
CoolMaster 650W Logitech Laser cordless 
  hide details  
Reply
post #8 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by accskyman View Post
They have the same chart listed on newegg somewhere as well. I think we're trying to figure out why theres so much of a price difference, if you get a free upgrade as opposed to outright buying it.
Incentive for people to buy an OS they don't need? That is my guess...

:/
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Opteron 148 DFI Ultra-D EVGA 7600GT KO 2x512mb Patriot LLK(TCCD) 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
250GB Samsung SP2504C XP SP2 17" CRT Zippy GSM-6600P 600W 
Case
Centurion 5 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Opteron 148 DFI Ultra-D EVGA 7600GT KO 2x512mb Patriot LLK(TCCD) 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
250GB Samsung SP2504C XP SP2 17" CRT Zippy GSM-6600P 600W 
Case
Centurion 5 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 19
Yea the prices for Vista are the retail MSRP prices. Its just like XP now, you can get a Copy of home retail for 200 I think it is, or get an OEM copy for 80 something. So I am gonna wait to see how much vista premium or ultimate costs OEM before I make my decision. Its probally gonna be around the same pricing as XP PRO now, maybe a little more. But under 200 im guessing.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel C2D E6600 Week 28A Asus P5B Deluxe eVGA 8800GTX 2gb Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1000 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2x 250gb Seagate 7200.10 (RAID 0) + 250gb backup DVD-RW Window XP Acer AL2216W 22" WS LCD 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech Multimedia PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Lian Li PC-V1200B Plus II Modded Logitech MX518 
Mouse Pad
FUNC 1030 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel C2D E6600 Week 28A Asus P5B Deluxe eVGA 8800GTX 2gb Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1000 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2x 250gb Seagate 7200.10 (RAID 0) + 250gb backup DVD-RW Window XP Acer AL2216W 22" WS LCD 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech Multimedia PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Lian Li PC-V1200B Plus II Modded Logitech MX518 
Mouse Pad
FUNC 1030 
  hide details  
Reply
post #10 of 19
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClaytonCallihan View Post
The difference is the actual Vista op system with multiple uses and ability to reformat. The mce upgraded to vista is a one time upgrade on whatever machine you have mce...

(if I am wrong let me know)
I dont believe retail versions are multi-use. What they do allow you to do though it "move" the OS to another computer. With an OEM version you have to stay on that computer. You can still re-format and re-install. You can still do upgrades to your computer. Here is a quote from here :

Quote:
Common changes to hardware such as upgrading a video card, adding a second hard disk drive, adding RAM or upgrading a CD-ROM device will not require the system to be reactivated.
If the upgrade is more complicated you can actually call MS and they're usually pretty cool about it from what I have heard. For me, I doubt I will upgrade the CPU or MoBo for a long time.
Lateralus
(16 items)
 
Camera Gear
(8 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-3770K Gigabyte UD5H EVGA GTX980 SC GAMING 4GB ACX 2.0+ G.Skill Ripjaws X series 16GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 3 x WD Black 1TB ASUS 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 64-bit Pro Dell U2412M Saitek Eclipse Seasonic X-850 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Lian-Li PC-A70F Logitech G5 Icemat Schiit Bifrost Uber -> MF X-Can v3 -> Senn HD650  
  hide details  
Reply
Lateralus
(16 items)
 
Camera Gear
(8 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-3770K Gigabyte UD5H EVGA GTX980 SC GAMING 4GB ACX 2.0+ G.Skill Ripjaws X series 16GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 3 x WD Black 1TB ASUS 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 64-bit Pro Dell U2412M Saitek Eclipse Seasonic X-850 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Lian-Li PC-A70F Logitech G5 Icemat Schiit Bifrost Uber -> MF X-Can v3 -> Senn HD650  
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Operating Systems
Overclock.net › Forums › Software, Programming and Coding › Operating Systems › Why not buy XP MCE & upgrade to Vista l8r?