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So, the FX-8350 came out. Naturally I'll be getting it. Now this 955 has been good to me, and I want to ensure things stay that way, hence another rig.
The things that will be shifted from the current RIG are : HDD, RAM, CPU. Optical drives will be shifted back and forth.

The main purposes of this 2nd RIG are going to be
A) Anime
B) Downloading/Browsing
C) Backup gaming rig (A single 560Ti will be shifted onto it if something happens)

Keeping all those variables in mind, I need an advice on a motherboard, PSU, Chassis.
Also I'm planning to get another CM212 EVO for this rig.

Budget- 150-200$, but saving is always good. Might end up buying a Sound Card as well.

For the motherboard, preferably ASUS. Their support might be crap, but they make solid products and one can't deny that.
PSU - Something from Corsair
Chassis - Corsair/Coolermaster

Note: Most people didn't get it. This rig is going to house the 955, and I've stated its purpose. Please don't recommend parts for FX-8350. lol why would I take an FX-8350 just for watching anime?
Edited by amd955be5670 - 10/27/12 at 7:52pm
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Your demands are small, so I don't think you're actually upgrading. You will non-grade from acceptable performance to acceptable performance.

Essentially, there is a maximum amount of CPU power that can benefit you, given your usage pattern. Exceeding that amount by more than you are currently exceeding that amount will result in zero benefit.

The same money would make a lot more sense buying a better monitor or getting a better GPU or getting a new desk chair or whatever.

As for sound card, an Asus Xonar DG is often recommended as a cheap but decent sound card.
    
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Your demands are small, so I don't think you're actually upgrading. You will non-grade from acceptable performance to acceptable performance.
Essentially, there is a maximum amount of CPU power that can benefit you, given your usage pattern. Exceeding that amount by more than you are currently exceeding that amount will result in zero benefit.
The same money would make a lot more sense buying a better monitor or getting a better GPU or getting a new desk chair or whatever.
As for sound card, an Asus Xonar DG is often recommended as a cheap but decent sound card.

As I said, this is building a 2nd rig. I have other plans for my primary rig, the main one being FX-8350. That will be used for extensive encoding and gaming.

I am fully satisfied with my current monitor, chair, desk, though thanks for pointing that out.

Thanks for the sound card recommendation.
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Lol looks like you recommended stuff keeping the FX-8350 in mind rolleyes.gif

I'll have to go by instinct on this other rig tongue.gif
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If you are certain that you are using 8 cores, then I'd recommend the 8230. It's 50 bucks cheaper and oc's as well as 8350. Piledriver is somewhat reminiscent of bulldozer, but not quite there. I do like the name Vishnu though.

The big issue here is that MOST programs/games do not use 8 cores. While the performance is great and the value may be better than intel chips, there still needs to be a clear purpose. I just faced the amd vs intel issue recently with my build and more cored does not equal more performance. My personal opinion, which is based on articles, is that it is actually not necessary or helpful unless there is a clear reason for it.

I am using the fx-6120, 6 core chip and honestly, I don't have a clue what apps are actually accessing the additional cores.
post #7 of 17

I like the M5A99FX PRO R2.0. Looks classy by the "Virgo" design.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131851

Also, a Fractal Design case would do well for a budget build. 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352010

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You could try asking in the HTPC section, maybe they would be a bit more helpful? wink.gif At least they may be able to help with choosing a case more than us.

As for the mobo, since this is essentually an HTPC, it'd probably be wise to be looking at a micro ATX motherboard rather than full ATX. Also you could probably save some money by looking into an AM3 board instead of an AM3+ mobo (unless you particularly want the option to upgrade to an FX chip).

Otherwise, for Corsair PSUs all I can say is try for those manufactured by SeaSonic.


Off topic teasing: My visual novel heroine is better than your visual novel heroine! tongue.gif
Edited by Nintendo Maniac 64 - 10/27/12 at 9:56pm
 
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post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by Nintendo Maniac 64 View Post

You could try asking in the HTPC section, maybe they would be a bit more helpful? wink.gif At least they may be able to help with choosing a case more than us.
As for the mobo, since this is essentually an HTPC, it'd probably be wise to be looking at a micro ATX motherboard rather than full ATX. Also you could probably save some money by looking into an AM3 board instead of an AM3+ mobo (unless you particularly want the option to upgrade to an FX chip).
Otherwise, for Corsair PSUs all I can say is try for those manufactured by SeaSonic.
Off topic teasing: My visual novel heroine is better than your visual novel heroine! tongue.gif

So the correct term was HTPC? Thanks for informing me. When creating the post, I was wondering where to put it, and had initially thought the "General Hardware Discussion".

Thanks for the advice on the motherboard, I hope them mATX boards have enough space between the PCI-E & PCI slot so that my GPU (when fitted) doesn't get sandwiched with my sound card thumb.gif

For the case, I want it to look good & big because its going to be seated right next to my 400R, and guests/friends visiting should think both rigs are mighty power houses lol

Off topic: Are you kidding? Satsuki is the best tongue.gif
post #10 of 17
Well, if you want a big case then it's not much of an HTPC now is it? The main concept of an HTPC is a smaller & quieter build, not a huge roaring monster. This also kind of nullifies the benefit of mATX in the first place.

Speaking of for mATX boards, the "sandwiching" depends largely on the board itself. For example, my board is arranged like this:

PCIe 1x
PCIe 16x
PCI
PCI

So if you want a gap between your GPU and sound card, you'll probably want this arrangement:

PCIe 16x
[whatever]
[whatever]
PCI


Off-topic: But Rin can do magic AND kung-fu. Can Satsuki do either? wink.gif
Edited by Nintendo Maniac 64 - 10/27/12 at 10:38pm
 
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HDMI audio-out to HDTV HDTV optical-out to Denon AVR-200 reciever 
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Pentium 3 @ 667MHz Some Intel mobo ATI Rage 128 AGP 32MB 2x256MB DDR1 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
1GB Sandisk CF card - boot drive Western Digital Caviar SE - 320GB IDE Maxtor - 200GB IDE RamDisk - adaptive 64MB viotle scratch 
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Athlon XP 2000+ Palomino stock heatsink w/ copp... Windows 2000 Pro SP4 None - VNC is used instead Bestec ATX-250-12Z 
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Pentium G3258 @ 4.6GHz/1.281v (rock-solid stable) MSI Z97 PC Mate [media & productivity] Intel HD graphics [games] Diamond Radeon HD5870 1GB 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
4x4GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 1800MHz 1.504v Crucial M500 480GB SSD RamDisk - adaptive 10GB volatile scratch LG Blu-ray drive 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Cooler Master X6 Elite with stock fan removed CPU fan: 120mm Arctic F12 PWM @ ~300rpm PSU fan: 120mm Kingwin case fan via PSU fan plug Windows 7 Ultimate - 64bit SP1 
MonitorKeyboardPowerMouse
E772p CRT (Trinitron) @ 79-94hz 1152x864/1280x720 PS/2 Microsoft Internet Keyboard (replaced cord) Antec EA-380D (380w) with stock fan removed Logitech MX510 (blue) with replaced USB cord 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
White Monoprice 9963 IEM headphones [Left ear] LostEarBuds medium single-flange tip [Right ear] Unknown medium single-flange tip Asus Xonar DS 
AudioAudioAudio
Dual SOIC LME49990 DIP8 op amp [music] Foobar2000 + Xonar ASIO driver [games & movies] Razer Synapse 7.1ch to binaural 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core 2 Duo (Penryn) T8300 @ 2.4GHz Dell Studio 1535 Intel 965GMA 2GB 667MHz Samsung DDR2 
RAMHard DriveOSMonitor
1GB 667MHz Samsung DDR2 60GB Corsair Force 3 SSD Windows 7 64bit SP1 Toshiba 39L1350U HDTV 
KeyboardPowerMouseMouse Pad
Some USB wireless Logitech keyboard Rocketfish universial power adapter (my cousin's) Some USB wireless Logitech mouse couch 
AudioAudio
HDMI audio-out to HDTV HDTV optical-out to Denon AVR-200 reciever 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Pentium 3 @ 667MHz Some Intel mobo ATI Rage 128 AGP 32MB 2x256MB DDR1 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
1GB Sandisk CF card - boot drive Western Digital Caviar SE - 320GB IDE Maxtor - 200GB IDE RamDisk - adaptive 64MB viotle scratch 
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Athlon XP 2000+ Palomino stock heatsink w/ copp... Windows 2000 Pro SP4 None - VNC is used instead Bestec ATX-250-12Z 
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