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post #1 of 14
10/28/12 at 5:43am
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alright guys so this will be my first proper Hi-Fi setup.

I originally had my eye on a logitech pc speaker set then started looking at bigger better systems.

My price range is no more than just over $1000 as i have some other upgrades planned, listed here

http://www.overclock.net/t/1320200/minidisplayport-vs-dvi-crossfire-hdmi-audio

however i've been reading around a bit and seen some other systems that i'm interested in


[quote name="System 1"
http://www.jbhifi.com.au/jb-hi-fi-home-audio/receiver/yamaha/500-watt-5-1-channel-av-receiver-sku-86373/
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http://www.jbhifi.com.au/jb-hi-fi-home-audio/speakers/wharfedale/825-watt-5-1-speaker-pack-sku-98888/[/quote]

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http://www.jbhifi.com.au/home-theatre/yamaha/600-watt-5-1-channel-home-theatre-outfit-sku-89698/[/quote]

[quote name="System 3"
http://www.jbhifi.com.au/home-theatre/sony/2000w-7-2-channel-3d-home-theatre-outfit-sku-97601/[/quote]


I'm looking for big volume and bass, but dont want to have to sacrifice too much quality

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10/28/12 at 5:50am
My advice on that budget, if you think you'll be able to budget some more in future, is to get a decent 5.1 or 7.1 amp, but only get front speakers at present.

You'll get much better overall sound, just having stereo, than you will trying to spread your budget thinly to get everything at once.

If you really want 5.1 straight away, maybe consider getting really cheap rears and centre, plus a very cheap sub, so you can still get good quality front L/R speakers and then upgrade the rest later, perhaps by picking stuff up second hand.
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10/28/12 at 10:04am
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My advice on that budget, if you think you'll be able to budget some more in future, is to get a decent 5.1 or 7.1 amp, but only get front speakers at present.
You'll get much better overall sound, just having stereo, than you will trying to spread your budget thinly to get everything at once.
If you really want 5.1 straight away, maybe consider getting really cheap rears and centre, plus a very cheap sub, so you can still get good quality front L/R speakers and then upgrade the rest later, perhaps by picking stuff up second hand.

what he said. I was given a 5.1 reciever, so i bought what i could afford at the time, which was some decent jbl bookshelfs that will be moved to rears soon as i convince the other half that towers are not ugly just because they are big. a good speaker will last forever, recievers always have something newer to bring, so spend your money on a good stereo setup, which are the most important speakers
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10/29/12 at 3:31am
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yeah think i might go with the stereo setup at first (2 good speakers and a sub) then maybe upgrade to 5/7.1/2, as my main audio use is music which is only 2.1, just curiously though, should i get a sub aswell or would the bass from 2 decent speakers be all good

just a thought, my xonar had 3 outputs, and there are sets of decent logitech speakers that use a single 3.5 to r/w stereo connection
would there be any worth in connecting 3 spereate pc computer systems and then controlling via the pc?

the amp i' getting will probably be the yamaha one as amps here in aus after that go up to 6-700+

aslo, for teh luz i found a version of those sony speakers called the "Super Metuki" setup, which has 4 towers, 4 satellites, same center, 3 amps, and 4 SUBS!, for only 1500, terrible quality though
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10/29/12 at 4:29am
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O also another thing guys would you be able to recomend, bookshelf over floor standing or vica cersa and why
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10/29/12 at 9:45am
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This thread is basically the same question as yours. Might help you.
Thread here.
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10/29/12 at 10:27am
On the floor standing vs bookshelf question, i would say the first and most important question is, do you have room for floor standing speakers. If you have the room required and could live with the big speakers i usually recommend floor standings due to their advantage of have good enough bass without adding a sub as you're often required to do with a bookshelf speakers.

This is from personal references, i own a pair of Canton GLE490.2 floor speakers and i have tested them with a sub but i didn't felt it was needed, or at least for the price of a good sub i was not that big difference (i only listen to music). But when listening to a pair B&W DM601 S3 bookshelf speakers, they really needed a sub for the bass.

So i usually says that to get equal sound from a pair of bookshelves as from a pair of floor standing, you need to add a decent sub for the bass.

EDIT: Oh, and on a side note, it feels like the selection of speakers are mush lower in the US then here in Europe, even if i feel like it should be the other way around. confused.gif A very popular 5.0 home theater kit here in sweden from Dynavoice, which has received great reviews from many well known and good magazine and it just costs equivalent to about 450$. Many kit in the US in that price range are from manufacturer like SONY and similar.
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10/29/12 at 11:26am
The trouble with getting a sub on your budget is going to be that it will not have tight controlled bass - a decent active sub would basically eat your entire budget. Small subs without a decent amount of mass to them just won't add anything to an already decent pair of front speakers.

I'd just get a good pair of floorstanding fronts, since bigger speakers tend to have better bass, but it does depend on the quality - I know I once heard (and nearly brought) a pair of PMC AML1 which blew away any floorstanders I'd heard for bass, but were comparatively tiny. They were active monitors, and were pro audio rather than consumer hifi stuff. Bookshelves do have the disadvantage though of needing stands - without a solid support they will lose a lot of bass and generally sound bad, and the stands need to be quite heavy duty and have a bit of mass to stop the bass being lost moving the speakers around.

I'd recommend ignoring reviews and going to hear stuff at audio stores for yourself, and if you can find a pro-audio store rather than a consumer place, go there instead.

Basically, it all comes down to taste, there are going to be plenty of speakers that other people like and review well, that you just won't like, so I think you have to hear stuff for yourself.
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10/29/12 at 9:19pm
Definitely floor standing. Especially if you have room. I'm one of the unfortunate souls who has tastes much higher than his pocket can handle, so I always get the best that i can afford. At around a $1k budget, you could possibly snag a couple def techs and an entry level pioneer elite for within that budget. By no means do they compete with B&W and Rotel etc, but a few minutes of digging found this if you don't mind used:

Def Tech 5.0 used

and you could pick up a pioneer elite:

Elite VSX-94TXH
If you are a movie buff it's THX certified, HDMI with Dolby true HD and DTS-HD for excelent blueray playback.

You'd be short a sub and 2 rears (if you pursue 7.1), but if you don't mind used, you can pick up the fronts (though bp10's aren't as good with bass as the active sub models) which are pretty good and more than competent receiver for an entry level system.

Also about the links in the OP, only the first works, so unfortunately I wasn't able to see what you selected frown.gif
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Also look up B&W Authorized dealers in your area. Might be able to get a nice deal from them for used equipment. Receivers/amps might be two to three years old, and speakers will be used. But the clientele that would have had that equipment, you would never know they were used.
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