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Review of the Zowie AM-FG

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ZOWIE AM-FG

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While I did review the ZOWIE AM before, this mouse definately deserve its own review. So here it is

What's included?
It comes with exactly the same as the ZOWIE AM, except now the box is white to match the color of the Zowie AM-FG

ZOWIE AM-FG gaming mouse
ZOWIE sticker
Extra set of teflon feet(Something more companies should do)
A box... which also function as the instruction manual on how to change dpi, polling rate and which side buttons that will be activated.





Sensor:

450dpi


1150dpi


2300dpi


In terms of sensor performance it is one of the best avago 3090 based mice. If you can live with the dpi options it might be the best for you if you bring in all the factors of perfect control speed, low lift off distance, no prediction, no jitter, a low amount of jitter.

The kingsys lense that the ZOWIE AM-FG WILL lover the perfect control speed compared to other mice with similar sensors like the roccat savu or the razer deathadder, but in return you get a much lower perfect control speed. Using the tape trick to achieve the same in the deathadder will result in a lower perfect control speed also.

If you want the highest perfect control speed I would recommend using it at 500hz. I still get over 3m/s at all options though and I have never managed to get it to reach its malfunction speed during gaming. However if that is not enough for you it's still possible to mod it as seen here biggrin.gif
http://www.overclock.net/t/1182539/zowie-am-review/530#post_17300593

Test results
125hz:
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http://imageshack.us/a/img268/3756/125hz2300.jpg

500hz:
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http://imageshack.us/a/img826/8996/29213128.jpg

1000hz
http://imageshack.us/a/img407/9456/1000hz.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img839/7423/1000hz2300dpi.jpg

Remember enotus mouse test is not something I would consider 100% accurate but it gives an idea.

There's no prediction.

There's no acceleration.

Depending on the surface, theres no jitter on 450dpi and 1150dpi but there seem to be some slight jitter at 2300dpi @ 1000hz. The jitter at 2300dpi does go away when I lower the windows sensivity

prediction and jitter tests:

125hz
450dpi
1150dpi
2300dpi

500hz
450dpi
1150dpi
2300dpi

1000hz
450dpi
1150dpi
2300dp

These tests where all done with the artisan hayate and the ZOWIE G-CM but with the qck fnatic edition the story was different. Here is what I previously got
http://www.overclock.net/t/1195737/review-of-the-zowie-am/50#post_16225461

I did a new test with the exact same settings and while it did seem to perform a lot better it still have some issues on the qck fnatic edition
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6532/qckfnatic.jpg


Lift off distance is extremely low(lower than 1cd) even my artisan hayate mousepad. It might cause some problems on white surfaces, but this is not something i can confirm as I don't own one at the moment.

I did however try it with lighter colored zowie g-cm and the performance is just as good as on the hayate.






Weight and dimensions: At first look it is very similar to the Xai/Sensei/msi 1.1/wmo but it definately feels smaller. It has almost the same lenght and height, but it is 13% less wide which gives it a much different feel. The sides are also shaped differently, with the ZOWIE AM-FG being more / \ and the Sensei being more rounded, which makes it a bit harder to lift but the coating makes up for it which I talk about later in this review . The weight is pretty much the same as the cm storm spawn which imo is PERFECT. For me an optimal gaming mouse should be between 75-90g. Anything less feels uncontrollable and anything more will make it harder to do fast accurate movements in fps games. Weight is definately something more people should consider when buying a gaming mouse

The good thing with the design though, is that with the sensei/xai I sometimes missclick the side buttons on the right side by mistake but the ZOWIE AM-FG is designed so that won't happen

Weight: 88g
Height: 39mm / 1.53 in
Width: 60 mm / 2.36 in
Length: 125 mm / 4.92 in

This shape works very well for both claw and fingertip. But for palmgrip I feel that it's simply feels too small, even for my small fingers.







Build quality and the cord:

The cord is in my oppinion the best cord you can get in any mouse. It is neither too thin or too thick and it is very flexible. I have only tried one cord that almost matched it, which is in a much more expensive mouse.

Here's a comparison of cords between the ZOWIE AM-FG, The steelseries sensei raw and the steelseries kinzu


I would put it in the ranks of some of the higher build quality mice out there there. In my previous review of the ZOWIE AM there as a small issue where mouse button 1+2 would touch eachother but that was fixed in the newer batches and in the Zowie AM-FG as seen here.

Here is a picture of the problem before
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In the new ZOWIE AM-FG


Last but not least the teflonfeet. They are big and seem to be made of 100% pure teflon. There is even an extra set of teflonfeet when you need to replace them.

So overall there's nothing bad to say about the build quality and the coating is simply amazing.







The new coating:



This is what ZOWIE GEAR have to say about the coating
"We have found a new method to apply the coating of the EC eVo white and the AM-FG and without getting deeper into the details, we can tell you that the coating process takes 48 hours for each mouse – and it makes it pretty damn awesome."

It sounds like a sales trick, but this is definately the best glossy coating that I have ever tried. Usually glossy coating is for people with dry hands and rubber coating is for people who sweat more and I can definately say that this mouse works for both because the coating makes me sweat a lot less. If my hands do get sweat I still have a good grip but I usually just wipe them off after a couple of hours. Despite the sides being / \ it is VERY easy to lift because the coating gives such a good grip.

The coating have a sparkle to it so overall the only drawback would be guys asking you why you have a mouse that sparkles biggrin.gif







The buttons and scrollwheel:

The two main buttons are custom huano switches made for ZOWIE. They are harder to press than most gaming mice, but they give a GREAT feedback in terms of feel and sound. Also they have a very short travel and shorter than all mice with omron switches(except the ninox velocity/aurora) so despite the higher pressure required, it's easy to double click

I have recorded a short video so you can hear the difference of huano switches and different variants of omrons.
I also did a test on "how many times can you click in 10 seconds" and here are the results

ZOWIE AM-FG = 64
ninox velocity = 68
steelseries sensei raw=73
cm storm spawn=79

my digital camera doesn't do it justice though but I hope it gives an idea.

The side buttons is much easier to press and is probally ttc switches? travel is a bit longer but they feel just fine. Unlike many other gaming mice the clicks are registered instantly with no delay

The scrollwheel is exactly the same as on the EC series and is a more durable optical scrollwheel. You can feel when you scroll and the scrollwheel is easy to click. I have been asked if mine have any problems with scrolls not being registered and it doesn't.





Software:
When you run a mouse with software theres always the possibility that something can go wrong. The software can crash, not work, or just drain the computer memory

The ZOWIE AM-FG runs completely without software which in my oppinion is ideal and one of ZOWIE's best selling points. Everything can be changed ON the mouse, being it dpi, polling rate and even which side buttons to be activated which is something no other company has done. Steelseries have a similar approach on their sensei series but you still can't change the buttons from right handed to left handed without the software

Final thoughts

To sum it up.

+PERFECT weight
+Perfect control speed above 3m/s in most cases
+Shape if you are using claw or fingertip grip
+Defined scrollwheel. Its easy to click and you can feel every scroll you make
+No prediction(that is, if you don't like having prediction)
+No acceleration at all
+ VERY low lift off distance
+No jitter at 450dpi and 1150dpi. Slight jitter at 2300dpi that will go away if you turn down sensitivity
+Well balanced weight
+Big teflon feet and an extra pair for replacement
+PERFECT mouse cord. Neither too thin or too thick, yet its very flexible
+Good build quality and rubber coating
+Great feedback on mouse button 1+2. Short travel
+Instant response from all buttons including the side buttons which on many gaming mice have delay.
+No software

-Not as comfortable as the other mice of similar shape like the Xai/Sensei/msi1.1a/wmo but this is a prefence ofcourse
-Side buttons have a long travel distance as on pretty much all mice

So overall I can definately recommend it


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Edited by HaiiYaa - 10/28/12 at 11:54am
post #2 of 35
I have used the Zowie EC Evo for a short time. The lift off seems to be under a CD on cloth (black), plastic (black), glass (red) coat. Maybe even below a millimeter on some surfaces. After comparing the LOD of the DeathAdder and the Zowie (side by side) I feel that a LOD of 2mm is better. The DeathAdder is too high and the Zowie is too low.

A lot of people say that Omron switches are the best. I do not think that way. I like these Huano switches, I wouldn't mind them in other mice. They are not a perfect switch because there is no such thing. They are great for games where controlled pairs of semi quick clicks are preferred; like Counter-Strike for example. Omrons, in my opinion, are best for easy successive rapid clicks.

I as well like the Zowie cable over the braided cables. The thickness is good, but it doesn't impede me.

The white paint on the one I was using looked to have a flaw under the side button. Something black must have landed on the mouse during the coating process. I do like the white though and I don't mind the flake in the gloss. For me it provides better grip than the black edition DeathAdder. I have "dry" hands compared to other gamers, I guess that is why

I respect Zowie for adding a set of teflon feet in the box when most (if not all) do not do such a gesture.
Edited by popups - 10/28/12 at 12:14pm
post #3 of 35
Nice review I have the normal am and I hated the scroll wheel and the buttons though, but all else a pretty solid mouse !
post #4 of 35
Is the cable as soft as the black am? I find the cable too soft, because when I move the mouse very quickly the cable jumps around on the desk. I would prefer at stiffer cable.
post #5 of 35
Looks very nice. Did they change the internals or the firmware at all?

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Originally Posted by MrFerrari View Post

Is the cable as soft as the black am? I find the cable too soft, because when I move the mouse very quickly the cable jumps around on the desk. I would prefer at stiffer cable.
I think so too. I find Abyssus' cable is the best I've tried.
post #6 of 35
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Originally Posted by popups View Post

I respect Zowie for adding a set of feflon feet in the box when most (if not all) do not do such a gesture.

Something that cost next to nothing smile.gif

I would prefer if they moved to higher quality internal hardware instead of cutting corners, though. I did get a laugh at 48 hour coating procedure ^^

Quote:
Originally Posted by meih View Post

Looks very nice. Did they change the internals or the firmware at all?

Hardware wasn't changed from what I've seen. Doubt they had someone mess with firmware either. (Don't make sense from my POV)
Edited by Skylit - 10/28/12 at 12:05pm
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How come every mouse Zowie releases I want?
Great review! thumb.gif

BTW Zowie posted this on their Facebook page.
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Obviously as its free marketing for them. Typically in exchange for samples~
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I know the teflon feet are really cheap, so it is not a huge deal, but how many mice companies care 2 cents to put at least 1 extra in the box? It's like a firearms company who puts extra magazines it the box.

After using the Zowie I agree with Skylit in that the lens is to high in magnification. They should lessen the magnification or go about another way of lowering the LOD. Not as low as it is now because that is too low. Yes there is such a thing as too low. I think 2mm is good, because when I move the mouse if I slightly (very slightly) lift it on accident it will result in a stuttering cross-hair.

The 450 CPI step does not feel like said CPI. It feels/looks to be higher than that while playing in game. So I think that is a wrong statement by the manufacturer. It might be near 576 CPI. Which would correlate to the lenses' magnification if it is 1.25-1.28x.
Edited by popups - 10/28/12 at 12:51pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFerrari View Post

Is the cable as soft as the black am? I find the cable too soft, because when I move the mouse very quickly the cable jumps around on the desk. I would prefer at stiffer cable.

I'm not too sure because I can't compare them. They are probally the same though
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Originally Posted by meih View Post

Looks very nice. Did they change the internals or the firmware at all?

Not too sure, but for some reason I didn't get as bad results with the qck fnatic as before. I don't know if I will open it or not
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Something that cost next to nothing smile.gif
I would prefer if they moved to higher quality internal hardware instead of cutting corners, though. I did get a laugh at 48 hour coating procedure ^^
Hardware wasn't changed from what I've seen. Doubt they had someone mess with firmware either. (Don't make sense from my POV)

Atleast they add teflon feet, unlike other companies that hope you will buy their newest product once the teflon feet are worn out biggrin.gif

As for the internal hardware I'm not sure what you are referring to. The switches and the lense?

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Originally Posted by KarmaKiller View Post

How come every mouse Zowie releases I want?
Great review! thumb.gif
BTW Zowie posted this on their Facebook page.
Quote:
Originally Posted by KarmaKiller View Post

How come every mouse Zowie releases I want?
Great review! thumb.gif
BTW Zowie posted this on their Facebook page.

Awesome biggrin.gif
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