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so my raid array started dying randomly, using "intel rapid storage technology" showed that the same HDD was getting unplugged(disconnected) while in windows.

i restart, the bios raid driver says 1 hard drive is missing.so then i just fooled around with the HDD's power cord (it looked loose for one of them), then started my pc and raid worked flawlessly.

the missing HDD error and then messing with the cord to get it working happened about 10 times before that 1 HDD stopped working, i than switched it to different power/SATA cords for the failed HDD, and bios wouldn't recognize it.

Can i write this off as 100% HDD failure for only that 1 hard drive?
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I would say 1 HDD.
Test each on their own and see which gives you the issue.
Have you tried using different SATA cables and/or SATA ports?
Installed latest motherboard drivers and BIOS?
Just rule out everything before pointing to a faulty HDD.
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What does the drive's smart data say?
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I would say 1 HDD.
Test each on their own and see which gives you the issue.
Have you tried using different SATA cables and/or SATA ports?
Installed latest motherboard drivers and BIOS?
Just rule out everything before pointing to a faulty HDD.

i tested the hard drive by mixing n matching SATA and power cords, and its ALLWAYS the same HDD that wont boot (bios does not recognize the drive).

i did get a bios update message a few days ago, but i ignored it. i don't think it would make sense for a HDD to stop being recognized by the bios because it needs an update...

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What does the drive's smart data say?

not exactly sure how to check this, the drive is NOT being recognized by the bios. anytime i have EVER had a problem with an HDD, the bios would recognize a drive being plugged it. but it would just not work in windows/post bios.
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Drives dropping from arrays is usually the result of some sort of degradation - if drives start to lock up more (for example, on bad sectors) then they can actually be kicked from an array by the RAID controller. But the drive will only report bad sectors if it locks up for its entire error recovery timeout. Most desktop drives have a TLER (Time Limited Error Recovery) of 30 seconds, and most RAID oriented drives (WD RE4's/Reds, etc.) are 7 seconds. That means if your drive locks up for say... 19 seconds.. it'll drop from the array, but still report no reallocated sectors or events, because eventually it got at the data.

This is why many people comment on enterprise/RAID drives being more reliable - with slowly declining drives, they generally report SMART errors sooner than desktop drives. That can help a server admin track down and eliminate problem drives before they impact uptime. But that said, I'm not sure how many drives decline slowly - most of my drives that started doing I/O flatlines went from reasonable performance to having 30 second flatlines - there was no inbetween state, as far as I can remember.
     
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wow, it happened again. i had removed the 3rd faulty hard drive and reset my raid setup with only 2 500gb drives.

now out of nowhere one of the drives failed again, i was trying to download a small file with Firefox, but Firefox froze and so did IDM. i tried killing them with task manager, but IDM refused to close. after a 10 sec hang, IDM worked and downloaded the file but intel rapid storage tech said a hard drive in my raid array failed.

whats causing my hard drives to fail this quickly? is it really normal degradation through raid 0?
Edited by Zaid - 11/17/12 at 12:24pm
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It's not "normal" degradation. One or more of the drives are getting locked up periodically and are dropping from the array. Well, either that or your Foxconn motherboard has an issue.

Perfectly healthy drives don't drop from arrays, but since the manufacturing processes aren't perfect... some drives do stuff like this. Generally manufacturers test their enterprise drives more thoroughly than regular consumer drives, so consumer drives have a higher percentage of issues like this.

The closest parallel is a kid with asthma or food allergies - he is neither dead/dying nor perfectly healthy, and functions fine most of the time. But if you have a team, you may want to pair two perfectly healthy kids rather than one healthy and one with asthma.


I'd say do your due diligence - replace SATA cables, update to the latest AHCI drivers, swap ports, etc.; tackle everything that has a slim chance of affecting it, so that your only remaining factors are the drives.
     
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