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post #11 of 34
In my experience, I would say that the Logitech G9x is NOT suitable for fingertip grippers (and perhaps claw grippers). I bought one recently and, while the switchable shell is great for customizing the feel of the body, this also causes me to unintentionally press the thumb buttons when I lift the mouse because the shells contact the button pressure points on the mouse body. Not a problem for regular tasks but it's a PITA for gaming when I tend to grip extra hard in tense situations.

ETA: I forgot to add, this is a nice resource. Thanks for putting this together!
Edited by bleeps - 10/28/12 at 2:05pm
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post #12 of 34
Not that I'm a hater but I don't agree with any of the criteria suggested by the guide writer.
Don't look for high cpi or customizable buttons... You don't need that.


The sensor technology guide was more than enough, I think this one will just trick people into buying the most expensive ADNS-9500 mice.
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post #13 of 34
Okay, critic mode ON for a second, since I like resources like this and want them to be as good as possible...

I'm not very keen on the "what to look for" section, for a few reasons.
--First, high DPI is only useful for people who use high sensitivity, which is certainly not everyone. Many people get their best results with lower DPI, and for them, higher DPI is not an advantage.
--Secondly, no mention is made of tracking quality. While the DPI of a sensor tells you how sensitive the sensor is, sensitivity is not the same as accuracy, and in many cases, sensors with a high DPI have flaws that compromise their accuracy, such as (unpredictable) acceleration or prediction.
--Thirdly, no mention is made of important aspects of mouse construction, such as weight (especially important), glide quality, sensor position, or switches. After all, if a mouse doesn't move and click the way you mean it to, no degree of tracking quality is going to make it suitable.

Next, the "gaming mice" section. What is the purpose of this section? Is it to provide recommendations, or to compile information?
--If you are trying to provide recommendations, popularity isn't a good way to do it. Popular doesn't mean "good", after all, and doing things that way might scare people off of discovering new mice/brands with potential. The last thing we need is yet another document working to blind people to the fact that there is a world outside of the biggest and most marketing-heavy brands.
--If your goal is to compile information about the most widely available mice, then in order to create a useful resource, you need to focus on digging up information that is harder to find. For example, for each popular mouse, what is the exact model of the sensor used? Does it use a standard or non-standard lens? What is the weight of the mouse? What kind of switches does it use? As things are, you're just repeating information that would be trivial for anyone smart enough to be worth caring amount to find on their own in a few seconds.
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post #14 of 34
Soooo much misinformation in this guide. The dpi bit is probably the most egregious.
    
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post #15 of 34
Quote:
Originally Posted by CorruptEagle View Post

You forget that this a GUIDE, it does not find the best mouse for you. It simply guides you and lets you compare many different mice and easily find one that is in your budget.

You forget that this guide contains a lot of misinformation. Just because it's sticked on reddit doesn't mean it's worthwhile.

The higher priced tier contains mice with bad performance (acceleration, z-axis issues, etc).
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post #16 of 34
Weak stuff, OP. Your grip section is all wrong. You don't even talk about angle snapping. doh.gif
Edited by cuad - 10/28/12 at 6:03pm
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post #17 of 34
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But, as I pointed out, there are plenty of issues in this guide which could guide you in the wrong direction. Following this guide I would be choosing a mouse with a braided cable and the highest amount of dpi possible and gazillions of buttons or whatever. I don't have any of that. I have a logitech G400 which has none of those things.
But in reality if you want to make a guide, you really need to factor in details that are also important, like the type of wheel encoder - optical or mechanical, how hard the detends are, how stiff or mushy the main buttons are. What material the mouse is made out of. It's weight. It's sensor position and weight distribution. And so on.
Yes - this is a GUIDE that sorts out all the marketing bull that's on the boxes of every gaming mouse. But it's not much use when you dvelve into the technical aspects of each mouse. The components used and so on.
It's propably even good for the complete newbie who is sittinng there and has no idea what DPI is and where ultrpolling factors in and why he should choose ultrapolling over bacon and eggs..


Reminds me of headphones. You can (try to) objectively measure data and qualities, though it's meaningless if comfort or specific properties aren't of your liking.

Subjective guides as this one do a fine job at representing how products are marketed and received, but take no account for the plethora of little things one may encounter. I actually purposely avoid recommending and reviewing mice for this very reason ^^
post #18 of 34
Yeah and then there'll be someone saying that you fix a headphone's problem with a $500 cable.
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

Reminds me of headphones. You can (try to) objectively measure data and qualities, though it's meaningless if comfort or specific properties aren't of your liking.
Subjective guides as this one do a fine job at representing how products are marketed and received, but take no account for the plethora of little things one may encounter. I actually purposely avoid recommending and reviewing mice for this very reason ^^

Headphones are a little different since in that area at least seems to be a consensus that the best headphone has a plain freq response.
In mice we seem to have a consensus sensorwise, still the shape, LOD and buttons are quite personal appreciations.
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http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=2024663

Add this to the resources (imo). It's basically the only thread I use to find a mouse. Notice that the deathadder's both iterations are flawless. biggrin.gif
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