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Thanks , ceramic ball bearings sounds good , hope it was a one off in your case .
I ordered one ,will take a chance .
And on the oil for bearings , used 3 in 0ne for one fan and 0w-30 synthetic on the other fan , will see which last longest . Figured 0w-30 would be thin enough and offer best life , better than 3 in one , at least that's what I hope .

 

3in1 contains a penetrant. Not sure about 0w-30, but I wouldn't recommend either.

 

You can get Singer Oil from WalMart and it's easily the cheapest option which will work well.

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@Tator, is this thread still a work in progress? Just curious smile.gif

 

Ninja Posted on me man! tongue.gif

 

Yeah, it is. I'm not done yet.

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@Tator Tot: As for exhaust fan, I'd like to buy the Zaward Golf 3 - ZG3-120C, is that the correct fan for a silent exhaust fan.
Have you got any experience with the Noiseblocker MF12-S2? I've got them in my Coolermaster Silencio 650 and as intake fans behind a door I find them very quiet at 5V, but not silent (and my HDDs stay around 30 degrees C), as exhaust fan at 5V I can hear it from 1.5m distance. Do you think the Bequiet Silent Wings 2 120 as intake fans would be better concerning noise?
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@Tator Tot: As for exhaust fan, I'd like to buy the Zaward Golf 3 - ZG3-120C, is that the correct fan for a silent exhaust fan.
Have you got any experience with the Noiseblocker MF12-S2? I've got them in my Coolermaster Silencio 650 and as intake fans behind a door I find them very quiet at 5V, but not silent (and my HDDs stay around 30 degrees C), as exhaust fan at 5V I can hear it from 1.5m distance. Do you think the Bequiet Silent Wings 2 120 as intake fans would be better concerning noise?

 

The Golf 3 will be quieter than the MF12-S2; Be Quiet would be as well.

 

Be Quiet has a better bearing, Zaward's are a bit cheaper, and sometimes easier to find under the Sharkoon name.

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Hi Tator,
What is your opinion on the Nanoxia FX Evo 140mm fan and the Gelid Wing 14?
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The Golf 3 will be quieter than the MF12-S2; Be Quiet would be as well.

Which version of Golf 3 is the correct one as there are different versions. I have seen the 120C with 1000 rpm at 12V and about 11 dBA?

Would Be Quiet Silent Wings 2 120 have about the same performance as MF12-S2?
Edited by didge - 3/20/13 at 3:37pm
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Hi Tator,
What is your opinion on the Nanoxia FX Evo 140mm fan and the Gelid Wing 14?

 

They're good fans, not worth the $25 they normally try to charge for the GeLID's but $15 is plenty reasonable.

 

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Which version of Golf 3 is the correct one as there are different versions. I have seen the 120C with 1000 rpm at 12V and about 11 dBA?

Would Be Quiet Silent Wings 2 120 have about the same performance as MF12-S2?

 

Silent Wing 2's are quieter than the MF12-S2's, as well as producing slightly more airflow. Pressure is about the same.

 

I have the C's which are 1000 RPM, the only difference is the color, LED color (if they have one), or the full range opperation (600-2000 RPM instead of just 300-1000)

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Higher Static pressure is ideal for heatsink/radiator fans right? For intake or exhaust case fans does it matter?

Tator in the OP you mention both silent wings having a low bearing hum. Is it noticeable in a case at all speeds?
Is the hum similar to the noise the corsair af140s make? Those fans are noisy because of that sound and I need to make sure the silent wings don't suffer from the same problem.
Edited by nervx - 3/21/13 at 12:02am
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Higher Static pressure is ideal for heatsink/radiator fans right? For intake or exhaust case fans does it matter?

Tator in the OP you mention both silent wings having a low bearing hum. Is it noticeable in a case at all speeds?
Is the hum similar to the noise the corsair af140s make? Those fans are noisy because of that sound and I need to make sure the silent wings don't suffer from the same problem.

 

Part of the reason I stopped so early is I felt I wash pushing out those paragraphs too quickly and I wasn't getting my point across well enough. I needed to be direct, elaborate, & precise. Something I didn't see I was accomplishing.

 

The AF120 / AF140 fans, and to a certain degree the AP120's (though they mask it some with airflow noise) create a medium pitch bearing turn. This type of noise is indicative of a fluid bearing design that doesn't have a proper balance to the input side of the motor. What you're hearing with them is the physical motor noise from the fan.

 

The Silent Wing 2's that I have (mind you, they came in a small but well padded box all the way from BeQuiet's main HQ in Germany) have a slight bearing  hum. It's the exact hum you would get on a fan that just doesn't have the coils wound tight enough. This is electrical noise that's so low in pitch, that at a distance of more than a 12 inches, you can't hear it at all. For that matter, I only heard it at 3v with my ear practically making love to the fan.

From a wave form analysis (thanks to the shotgun mic I was renting for a short period of time), I could actually see that it was there the whole time.

 

I don't think this is a matter of QC but instead a matter of the fans being shipped across the globe and beaten  up the whole way here. As the shipping box was pretty mangled at my door step and it most likely took enough shocks to kill a man.

 

That sort of noise won't even effect the 0.1% of users, even if they were to experience it.

 

 

As for Static Pressure;

Heatsinks, Radiators, & drive cages. Those three things are the biggest choke points for a fan in a case. Drive Cages are actually the worst in most cases theses days. As you have low flow scenarios like the Define R4, P280, Deep Silence 1, Obsidian 550D, & Silencio 600 which choke up fans using a front door, air filter, & fan guard. 

Then you have drive cages to blow through on top of that.

 

If you can, the best option for a Define R4 is to move the lower drive cage closer to the PSU and keep the front slatted fan guard off. Only leaving on the air filter. This should give you the best design for airflow on that case without leaving the door open to essentially make it a Arc Midi.

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