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Personally im going to assume it negatively impacts performance, since a lot of the air will just go out to the sides..

had a cpu cooler once without a bracket around it, it was not very good.
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What are TY-147A bearing type? Is the Enhanced Hyper-Flow Bearing just a fancy name for a FDB? Or is it a dual ball bearing?

Also, what is the best way to dye these fans? I want to make them full black. Spray-paint will be a painful option, since it is the rainy season in NL right now so it rains constantly. What about liquid black paint for leather shoes?
Edited by Shneiky - 10/21/15 at 6:00pm
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What are TY-147A bearing type? Is the Enhanced Hyper-Flow Bearing just a fancy name for a FDB? Or is it a dual ball bearing?

Also, what is the best way to dye these fans? I want to make them full black. Spray-paint will be a painful option, since it is the rainy season in NL right now so it rains constantly. What about liquid black paint for leather shoes?
No idea what the EHFB is .. and really don't much care. They are very good fans that seem to last forever. Some of my TY-14x series fans (TY-140) are years old and have been running pretty much 24/7 for many years now and still going strong. It so much what kind of bearing as it's quality. wink.gif

As for painting / fan blade color change, I use leather and upholstery dye like used on leather chairs and car seats. Just be careful none gets into the motor.
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Well I was questioning the type of bearing, because I have 2 TY-147A on the way to replace the Cryorig XF-140s on the R1. If my hand on experience with them is as good as everyone else's I was thinking of getting full TY-147A fans for my next case. I want to move to 140 fans and I was thinking if the 147As are up to the hype - to get 4 more in the new case and drive all of them dependent on CPU temps. The only issue I was worried about is horizontal mounting.

I do agree that the bearing implementation has as much impact as the bearing type, but I won't mount sleeve bearing fans horizontally ever again. First dips of Singer oil was needed after 4 months. Then after 2 more. Then again after 2 weeks - and then just new fans. So that is why I was asking for the bearing type. Just to imagine how much maintenance would it require if any at all.

Even so, the XF-140 bearing is a FDB of a sort (at least as far as I know) it did not enjoy being horizontal and after 2 months - the fan started vibrating and now the whole thing is off balance even when remounted vertically. Which is sad. I liked Cryorig. I wanted them to do good. Like a parent wants his kid to do good type of way. Like JayzTwoScents and EVGA kind of way.

After all the Silent Wings 2 140mm are 22 EUR, while the TYs are 11 EUR. But the 147A has a stated life expectancy of 50 000 hours, while the Silent Wings 2 have it at 300 000. Already 50 000 hours is 5.7 years, but I like the spec and warranty be quiet! gives. My 5 120mm Silent Wings 2 have been running for around 3 or maybe more years now in all possible directions - no degrade in their properties what-so-ever.

If the TYs are the same - then maybe I will have a new favorite fan brand. And I got a crazy idea for them to try - Why not make a TY-147A full black and release it to the public - lets call it 147B. Or make it the same black/red as the TY-149 and put as TY-147R or something. But this is just nitpicking.
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Well I was questioning the type of bearing, because I have 2 TY-147A on the way to replace the Cryorig XF-140s on the R1. If my hand on experience with them is as good as everyone else's I was thinking of getting full TY-147A fans for my next case. I want to move to 140 fans and I was thinking if the 147As are up to the hype - to get 4 more in the new case and drive all of them dependent on CPU temps. The only issue I was worried about is horizontal mounting.

I do agree that the bearing implementation has as much impact as the bearing type, but I won't mount sleeve bearing fans horizontally ever again. First dips of Singer oil was needed after 4 months. Then after 2 more. Then again after 2 weeks - and then just new fans. So that is why I was asking for the bearing type. Just to imagine how much maintenance would it require if any at all.

Even so, the XF-140 bearing is a FDB of a sort (at least as far as I know) it did not enjoy being horizontal and after 2 months - the fan started vibrating and now the whole thing is off balance even when remounted vertically. Which is sad. I liked Cryorig. I wanted them to do good. Like a parent wants his kid to do good type of way. Like JayzTwoScents and EVGA kind of way.

After all the Silent Wings 2 140mm are 22 EUR, while the TYs are 11 EUR. But the 147A has a stated life expectancy of 50 000 hours, while the Silent Wings 2 have it at 300 000. Already 50 000 hours is 5.7 years, but I like the spec and warranty be quiet! gives. My 5 120mm Silent Wings 2 have been running for around 3 or maybe more years now in all possible directions - no degrade in their properties what-so-ever.

If the TYs are the same - then maybe I will have a new favorite fan brand. And I got a crazy idea for them to try - Why not make a TY-147A full black and release it to the public - lets call it 147B. Or make it the same black/red as the TY-149 and put as TY-147R or something. But this is just nitpicking.
LOL, but it's fun. biggrin.gif

I put horizontal TY-140 fans bottom and top in my Define R2 from new. Changed systems in it a couple of times, but it's Still got the same TY-140 fans in it. Never had a problem with one yet, and I've probably used more than most others have. Have several as house fans to move air in hot weather tool biggrin.gif
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"Have several as house fans to move air in hot weather tool" - that is probably the 2nd craziest thing after me assembling an IKEA wardrobe with the provided screwdriver with R1 Ultimate, because I broke my own with the wardrobe. biggrin.gif
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"Have several as house fans to move air in hot weather tool" - that is probably the 2nd craziest thing after me assembling an IKEA wardrobe with the provided screwdriver with R1 Ultimate, because I broke my own with the wardrobe. biggrin.gif
Generic 12v little wall-wart powers then nicely and they are near silent. First used them in camper van. biggrin.gif
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So my TY-147As will most likely arrive tomorrow (took em long enough). I was wondering - do they play nice with voltage only fan controllers? Like NZXT Sentry Mix 2.
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So my TY-147As will most likely arrive tomorrow (took em long enough). I was wondering - do they play nice with voltage only fan controllers? Like NZXT Sentry Mix 2.
I always use PWM, but assume they will work just fine on variable voltage. Tomorrow I will test them on voltage control.
post #2720 of 2743
I am asking because my Z77 Extreme6 does not have good fan control. It has a CPU PWM, a System fan - voltage, and 4 case fan headers. The CPU PWM and System fan work pretty well giving 10 steps of fan control, but the regular 3 pin case fan headers have only 4 steps. So I got this NZXT voltage controller a while back (also because some wires were just not long enough)and even hooked up the XF140s and they were acting normally. But I know from previous experience that some PWM fans don't really like being controlled by voltage for daily use and degrade after a while. Also, such controller is pretty useful for testing airflow configurations.

So if the TY-147As have no issues with the fan controller - it will save me the trouble of eventually using them as case fans, as opposed to rigging splitters to run all fans with power from the PSU and PWM signal from the CPU header.
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