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as a small computer shop owner i can tell you this..... getting your name out there is the number one most important part of what you want to do.... you want to do everything you can to make your name synonymous with quality work. building 1 or 2 computers for close friends and family is a great way to cut your teeth in the business. offer your services around your town. go get yourself certified (truthfully an A+ certification doesnt mean what it used to mean, but its a great start) learn everything you can possibly learn not only about the computer part of the business, but the business part as well... learn it from both ends. i have been doing what i do for almost 20 years, and every day it seems i still learn something new even about old systems.
as for the sponsorships.... you do what you do, do it right, make it worth something and you wont have to ask, the sponsors will come to you. prepare a portfolio, showcasing all the work you have done, familiarize yourself with the individual parts, and the companies that make them.... focus on building the absolute best product that money can buy... settle for nothing less than perfection..... somewhere in teh middle of all of this, people will start to take notice..... and soon what was once a hobby, will become a career that will last you a lifetime.
i know the main reason you asked about all this is shortage of funds, but always remember where there is a will there is a way. even if you have to start small.... just start somewhere, go to your local swap meet and buy a few cheap computers, fix em up, upgrade em.... sell em for some profit then invest that money back into more parts and more pcs..... be reasonable on your prices, but be careful not to undercut your local shop by too much.... this business is very competitive, this is why you have to find something you can do that may not be offered other places near. learn something new if you have to. by keeping your prices fair to the business around you, you can begin to network, build partnerships..... and those other shops arent going to try to run you out of business.....if you bring them business, they will bring you business.
above all else... never forget that even micheal dell, the owner dell one of the largest pc manufacturers in the world... started from home.... found a niche.. and became mega rich.
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i built my friends computer, $2700. my computer $1600, and another friends $680. I live, breath, eat, sleep, and breath computers. I'm going to college for it currently. And am working on my A+ certification. I know my way around windows and can easily set up networking. I also know my way around a Mac (owned one for 3 years). I learn more about computers everyday. and yes, i am young. I am 18. 19 in 15 days. Im eager to learn and any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Anyone can build a PC, its no special skill. (not talking about modding) school for computers is almost useless, I went to school for a BA in IT and when I finished, I went to work for a PC company and it was nothing like the books. Best advice start asking for internships in a PC repair shop now, don't wait. You will do most of your learning in the trenches. Not saying quit degree just saying don't rely on it for your real learning.
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this man speaks the truth!!!!
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Anyone can build a PC, its no special skill. (not talking about modding) school for computers is almost useless, I went to school for a BA in IT and when I finished, I went to work for a PC company and it was nothing like the books. Best advice start asking for internships in a PC repair shop now, don't wait. You will do most of your learning in the trenches. Not saying quit degree just saying don't rely on it for your real learning.
i wish i could find a pc shop in my area that is not a hole in the wall that no one goes to. i would love to do a internship at a pc shop but seems like the only gigs i get are my friends pc. i just repair them ( mainly wiping out a virus) but everyone i know doesnt care about upgrading a pc or making look good, all they care about is if i can get it to work or not
    
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Anyone can build a PC, its no special skill. (not talking about modding) school for computers is almost useless, I went to school for a BA in IT and when I finished, I went to work for a PC company and it was nothing like the books. Best advice start asking for internships in a PC repair shop now, don't wait. You will do most of your learning in the trenches. Not saying quit degree just saying don't rely on it for your real learning.

That's assuming the he is going to school for IT... computer in general is very broad. But I agree.
 
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i wish i could find a pc shop in my area that is not a hole in the wall that no one goes to. i would love to do a internship at a pc shop but seems like the only gigs i get are my friends pc. i just repair them ( mainly wiping out a virus) but everyone i know doesn't care about upgrading a pc or making look good, all they care about is if i can get it to work or not

If the hole in the wall shop is still open then obviously some people go there. Beggars can't be choosers. My first gig was in a hole in the wall crummy shop, and he taught me most of what I know. Sometimes they are the best cause the can teach you not so orthodox ways of solving a problem. If it was not for that guy, when I opened my own shop I never would have survived as long as I have.
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U could do some cool moddings , get a dremel and do some windows and some holes lol . take apart old cases , paint them and put them back on lol even if its a 1999 compac lol

I have an old IBM coming my way in the morning.. let the modding begin! thumb.gif

EDIT: Maybe not so old, seems to be around 2005 since it's equipped with a Pentium 4 650 (3.4ghz)
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If the hole in the wall shop is still open then obviously some people go there. Beggars can't be choosers. My first gig was in a hole in the wall crummy shop, and he taught me most of what I know. Sometimes they are the best cause the can teach you not so orthodox ways of solving a problem. If it was not for that guy, when I opened my own shop I never would have survived as long as I have.

Agreed... my first internship was definitely a stepping stone and wouldn't have been able to get where I am without it.
 
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Money doesn't talk here, pictures do teaching.gif

will get some when i can. the pc's are obviously scattered, since not all of them are mine.
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If the hole in the wall shop is still open then obviously some people go there. Beggars can't be choosers. My first gig was in a hole in the wall crummy shop, and he taught me most of what I know. Sometimes they are the best cause the can teach you not so orthodox ways of solving a problem. If it was not for that guy, when I opened my own shop I never would have survived as long as I have.

yeah this is soooo true
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as a small computer shop owner i can tell you this..... getting your name out there is the number one most important part of what you want to do.... you want to do everything you can to make your name synonymous with quality work. building 1 or 2 computers for close friends and family is a great way to cut your teeth in the business. offer your services around your town. go get yourself certified (truthfully an A+ certification doesnt mean what it used to mean, but its a great start) learn everything you can possibly learn not only about the computer part of the business, but the business part as well... learn it from both ends. i have been doing what i do for almost 20 years, and every day it seems i still learn something new even about old systems.
as for the sponsorships.... you do what you do, do it right, make it worth something and you wont have to ask, the sponsors will come to you. prepare a portfolio, showcasing all the work you have done, familiarize yourself with the individual parts, and the companies that make them.... focus on building the absolute best product that money can buy... settle for nothing less than perfection..... somewhere in teh middle of all of this, people will start to take notice..... and soon what was once a hobby, will become a career that will last you a lifetime.
i know the main reason you asked about all this is shortage of funds, but always remember where there is a will there is a way. even if you have to start small.... just start somewhere, go to your local swap meet and buy a few cheap computers, fix em up, upgrade em.... sell em for some profit then invest that money back into more parts and more pcs..... be reasonable on your prices, but be careful not to undercut your local shop by too much.... this business is very competitive, this is why you have to find something you can do that may not be offered other places near. learn something new if you have to. by keeping your prices fair to the business around you, you can begin to network, build partnerships..... and those other shops arent going to try to run you out of business.....if you bring them business, they will bring you business.
above all else... never forget that even micheal dell, the owner dell one of the largest pc manufacturers in the world... started from home.... found a niche.. and became mega rich.

this is a great example of a "startup" repair shop


as a freelance computer specialist ( fancy name i had to find for business cards and stuff like that and professional services that didnt quite catalog as repairing) :

* You will start low , start at your home , like i did. Get some tables and some PSU and crappy GPUs PCI AGP and PCIex , and all that stuff to trial and error a PC (its the only way u will find out the problem with the computer) or if its software , its easier to solve , sometimes the customer will tell u whats wrong or u could keep trying to resolve the problem just by talking .

*make a website , it will cost you like 10$ (domain) and some cheap hosting , nothing fancy , just enough to have space for the website and some php files that redirects emails to gmail .. There are tons of website builders out there , i use Adobe Muse ( pay monthly like 50$ and i got all of Adobe programs )

*by the time u got your website up , u just learned how to make websites and probably how to make logos , flyers , brochures etc .... u could promote that too

*Get a car , a working one at least , so u could reach clients .

*I dont know how to explain this but here i go . Sometimes there are business trade shows in venues , i know you will not have the money to rent a space and show off your service stuff , but you could go and look around and stalk people , you can hear some conversations arround similar business and you can sneak in and "talk down" or ask "low blow questions" to the guy who is doing some kind of speech/pitch to his crowd , people will acknowledge you not as a thread but someone who might know a thing or two about the topic . That moment is where u sneak in and present yourself lol (kind of a douche move but thats how the small business works , its a dog eat dog world sometimes)

now here is the interesting part :

when u get some regular clients , u could offer them a monthly service ( small businesses love this) and what that means is that u will be on call and like once a moth u will go and do a scan and all that stuff. Easily , with like 10 clients , giving u 50$ monthly , thats 500$ steady income . When u get a steady income , start looking for a Office or some physical place and bootstrap yourself ( create the company legaly and all that stuff )

that is what i did , do it right , people will look for you , and try to be honest and loose it up when u talk with clients , try not to sound robotic polite but dont go "dude" "whatsup" "check it" on the clients ether

Ah , and u said u are 18-19 ... Assuming you are going to some kind of higher learning institute (college or university) . THAT place is a GOLDMINE , i remember in my days , repairing computers instead of studying all the time ... i still got some friends from when i was in Accounting
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