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Hey all, just another case of trying to figure out why it runs so bad...

So rig in sig, unless I haven't updated it, i3-2120 and 7850. SO question, this game in general doesn't run too fast. At very best when I'm not around many people I get 40-50 only... So recently I tried the WvW thing, and wow. Once we get a ton of people in a fight, my fps goes down to like 5 maybe. And I've asked other players, a few tell me they have the same problem but their computer is really bad. Others say they definitely drop in fps but only to like 20-30. I brought this up, most 'enthusiasts' will make fun of me having a dual core. But this is ridiculous... Some facts..

BF3 and Skyrim with enb and texture mods I keep over 45-60 constantly, even in big scenes.
Looking at GPU usage in gw2, at max it's like 70%. In WvW it seems to be much less some reason.
Checking task manager in WvW in a HUGE combat moment it'll be around 75% total load, and all threads are pretty even across the board, none are spiking or higher than the other.

Would this be called optimization issues? Or issues from it being a very big online game? Or is there some really good reasoning for me to get an i5? I still haven't seen any good reasoning yet.
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post #2 of 33
GW2 is extremely CPU limited. 2 cores is indeed your issue, unless there are reports of some freak AMD driver issue (not unheard of tongue.gif).

The game is (imo) badly optimized, so it's not going to nail 100% utilization even if it needs more resources.

Also, you need to report what settings you play on for people to give comparisons with their own experience. I'm sure someone with a 7850/7870 and a quad can give more exact feedback.
Edited by mechtech - 10/28/12 at 10:00pm
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Im going to say an optimization issue.

1 friend has a 1075t and 6970 and hes experiencing the same u are. It is really random and he has tried different drivers.

I have my sig rig and its playing like that in some spots also.

My buddy has a i7 xeon 2600 equivalent and a gtx 670. His seems more stable, but he does have a better card.


My friends and I don't notice any of our cores max or the video card being 100 percent usage. We all tried mulitple drivers.
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Because I'm tempted to look at an i5... But why would it use the i5 any better if It can't even use 2 cores right? Unless they programmed it incorrectly and the game things I have 4 cores not 4 threads, I don't know. Also if it's CPU limited why wouldn't CPU be fully utilized? Most of the time it's only 50% or so, again all threads pretty even.
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post #5 of 33
I had similar problems during the beta. Overclocking my CPU helped a lot. It got a lot better when the game launched.

If you only get 70% GPU usage with the latest driver, it's fairly certain that your CPU can't handle it.
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Because I'm tempted to look at an i5... But why would it use the i5 any better if It can't even use 2 cores right? Unless they programmed it incorrectly and the game things I have 4 cores not 4 threads, I don't know. Also if it's CPU limited why wouldn't CPU be fully utilized? Most of the time it's only 50% or so, again all threads pretty even.

50% means it's being maxed out. The other 50% is hyper-threading.
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50% means it's being maxed out. The other 50% is hyper-threading.

That is incorrect... The cores go over 50% on the threads... Total CPU usages is usally 50-70. Threads one each core are also 50-70... No spiking or anything..

And how could it be the GPU is too slow if the CPU isn't even being fully utilized?
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That is incorrect... The cores go over 50% on the threads... Total CPU usages is usally 50-70. Threads one each core are also 50-70... No spiking or anything..
And how could it be the GPU is too slow if the CPU isn't even being fully utilized?

It is not incorrect. Try running a game that only makes use of a single core, run it on the lowest res w/ max settings to put max strain on the CPU. You'll get 25% usage according to task manager, not 50% like you'd think. The extra percentages can be due to other background processes. The CPU is being fully utilized.
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post #9 of 33
GW2 has absolutely terrible atrocious optimization.

My sigrig "Arcane" gets all of 10 FPS in empty areas with everything set to minimum settings.

This is a machine that can easily breeze through Crysis, Metro, BF3 and Planetside 2 all maxed ... but a game with graphics from 10 years ago and absolutely nothing going on? Nope, course not.


TBH I don't really have anything good to say about GW2, but then people said that about GW1 and IMO that's a fantastic game, so I'll just end here.
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Okay here is a picture of my Task manager's recordings since some reason you say 50% is max usage...

Note: This is during WvW match with 50 people on screen... I screened after I alt tabbed so the CPU % went down a little bit of course, but you can see the time lapse charts.

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