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hi everyone, been waiting for a hot day to run some benchmarks while the room temperature is higher to see how my pc holds up comparing to colder days we've been having.

I've got a Thermaltake Jing sitting on a stock Intel 2500k 3.3ghz which im thinking of overclocking to somewhere around 4ghz in the near future.
The main fan that blows air into the heatsink is set just about all the way up and the rear fan is at about 40% so it's quieter and should still be pulling enough heat out.
i ran prime 95 today for 45 minutes and found that my CPU was hitting about 70 degrees at 100% load.

it's quite a big cpu cooler and i expected a little more, i've reapplied the thermalpaste about a month ago but it's still the same, maybe a different thermal paste?

are these temps alright or should i be looking into a better air cooler or possibly a watercooler since summer is on it's way in melbourne? thanx
edit:

running in my sig rig, and should have decent airflow with my NZXT Phantom 410 Case.
forgot to add screen tongue.gif

Edited by PoisonousRakija - 10/29/12 at 3:41am
   
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post #2 of 17
Hey man

To be honest those temps are about right to be honest. It's an air cooler to start with and unless you've set your vcore you'll be pumping miles too much across,

I'd have a look at setting the Vcore at stock levels (1.15v) and then bench it to see how it goes. What thermal paste did you use?

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thanx, after a little research i've found that it's quite common for various 2500k owners. guess i overrated the cpu cooler i bought.
the vcore, clock speeds, etc are all set on default (stock 2500k for now)

70 seems a little hot, even after 45 mins @ 100% load on GPU/GPU, if that's how the 2500k is with this big cooler i can't imagine how it is on stock.
i'm getting some Arctic Silver thermal paste, the one i'm using atm i don't even know what it is, just some $7 from the tech store.
might get some Arctic Cooling MX-4 and i won't put too much on to see if it makes a difference.

at the time, i couldn't find anything better for the $85-$100 price range for an aircooler except a Noctua one which was a little too big and i didn't like the colour as much.

just added the screenshot if you want to see, i might do another benchmark just prime 95 without putting any load on the gpu at the same time so the case isn't as hot aswell.
   
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post #4 of 17
When you feel comfortable doing it, I'd be going into the bios and setting the vcore etc manually. The i5 2500k can run very low voltage. I have mine at 3.8ghz at 1.1v. I don't leave many of my voltage settings on Auto or Normal in the bios. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by PoisonousRakija View Post

thanx, after a little research i've found that it's quite common for various 2500k owners. guess i overrated the cpu cooler i bought.
the vcore, clock speeds, etc are all set on default (stock 2500k for now)
70 seems a little hot, even after 45 mins @ 100% load on GPU/GPU, if that's how the 2500k is with this big cooler i can't imagine how it is on stock.
i'm getting some Arctic Silver thermal paste, the one i'm using atm i don't even know what it is, just some $7 from the tech store.
might get some Arctic Cooling MX-4 and i won't put too much on to see if it makes a difference.
at the time, i couldn't find anything better for the $85-$100 price range for an aircooler except a Noctua one which was a little too big and i didn't like the colour as much.
just added the screenshot if you want to see, i might do another benchmark just prime 95 without putting any load on the gpu at the same time so the case isn't as hot aswell.

Have you actually gone into your BIOS and set your Vcore, motherboards will push through more Voltage that required to ensure stability. You'll probably see a nice drop in temps if you manually set it.

To be honest mate, if you're dropping $100 on a cooler just go with something like the corsair H100 or the silver arrow.

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Originally Posted by K62-RIG View Post

When you feel comfortable doing it, I'd be going into the bios and setting the vcore etc manually. The i5 2500k can run very low voltage. I have mine at 3.8ghz at 1.1v. I don't leave many of my voltage settings on Auto or Normal in the bios. thumb.gif

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Have you actually gone into your BIOS and set your Vcore, motherboards will push through more Voltage that required to ensure stability. You'll probably see a nice drop in temps if you manually set it.
To be honest mate, if you're dropping $100 on a cooler just go with something like the corsair H100 or the silver arrow.
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using a Gigabyte z68xp-ud3r, from what i've seen in the bios it's pretty geared up, i've never had a board with soo many features or ever paid as much for a board either xD
there's a good deal of settings for voltages, clock speeds, ram speeds and all that stuff. it's apparently easy from what i've heard to oc a sandy bridge cpu, apparently you can just throw the multiplier up to 36 for 3.6ghz and 40 for 4.0ghz but i havent really looked into it.

everything is set on default except for AHCI mode i set for my SSD to work properly, i just want to make sure my temps are fine before i unleash the cpu. smile.gif

would anybody advise i change the thermal paste to the Artic one? I'm not gonna rush into changing the cooler because it's quite a large cooler and it's gotta be a lot better than the stock one. a couple months a go i FULLY cleaned out the system and left it almost without a spec of dust and reseated the cpu cooler and repplied the thermal paste, no temps have changed so im guessing i never put too much thermal paste on ever?

i don't wanna put the wrong settings in the bios and end up burning my cpu from overpowering or lagging it from underpowering. sorry, i have little experience when it comes to OC'ing.
   
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post #7 of 17
Right, that's your issue.

Just putting the multi up and not setting your Vcore will make it push loads through.

Put a Vcore of around 1.15 and then up it from there to gain stability.

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fair enough, i'll keep that in mind for when i decide to OC and i'll look into the subject a little further then.
will an OC from 3.3ghz to 4.0ghz generally push the temps much higher if done properly?

because if it's at 70 now at full load @ 3.3ghz i imagine it'd only go higher.

still might go for a different type of thermal paste to see if it makes a difference, just found out the one i currently use is the cheapest one centrecom has. i used the same tube over a year ago in my LGA775 systems tongue.gif
http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/images/product_deepcool_THP-Z5.jpg

as for the H100 it's $145 at centecom and it's quite large but my case has room at the top for a dual sized radiator

edit: running prime 95 on it's own without Furmark on the GPU, 3x case fans cranked up also.
Edited by PoisonousRakija - 10/29/12 at 5:18am
   
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at the time, i couldn't find anything better for the $85-$100 price range for an aircooler except a Noctua one which was a little too big and i didn't like the colour as much.
Please tell me you got this a long long time ago, otherwise sell your soul and go to MSY. If that's the price you were paying for a cooler like that then MSY is worth the risk (Shall we say I wouldn't recommend googling them along with the terms "ACCC" or "Warranty" wink.gif)
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post #10 of 17
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paid $90 for it including gst in January 2012, wouldn't pay that much for it now, but at that time there wasn't all the liquid coolers we have now, at least not at my local tech stores.

$39 now?!?! you gotta be joking :\
Edited by PoisonousRakija - 10/29/12 at 5:57am
   
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