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Poorly informed much? Or just incredibly biased?
Performance? The 7970 GE is the fastest single card, sir, period. That shouldn't even be up for debate anymore. Over-clockablity? The 680's are generally not better overclockers than most 7970's. You must be joking.
And the "AMD has bad drivers!" claim seriously needs to die already. I came from a GTX 460, and more recently a GTX 570, before finally taking a chance with some 7970's at launch. My experience thus far with AMD driver support has been no worse than what I experienced with Nvidia.

Biased? He said he had both cards in different rigs, I never caught any biased. It's his opinion and he's entitled to it just as you. He tried both cards and it was his experience. Don't have to agree, and can argue his point but I don't get he 's biased owning both cards currently speaking in reference to.

Your experience was different and I don't think your biased.
     
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AMD hype is going overdrive. The 7950 sure enough is not competing with the 680. There is still a good ~20% between the two. Even the vanilla 7970 is still not as fast as the 680 all things considered. So it takes a 7970 GHz Edition to beat the 680 which of course is no small feat considering the price.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/23.html
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AMD hype is going overdrive. The 7950 sure enough is not competing with the 680. There is still a good ~20% between the two. Even the vanilla 7970 is still not as fast as the 680 all things considered. So it takes a 7970 GHz Edition to beat the 680 which of course is no small feat considering the price.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/23.html

Yeah, I agree with this.. The 680 is better at stock BUT they're the same clock for clock. Which makes the 7970 a better choice.. It has voltage control which leads to better overclocks generally, more VRAM. It does use a tad more power and doesn't have physx etc however rolleyes.gif
 
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Well according to the most recent 680 vs 7970 battle on overclockers.ru the 7970 gain on avg 11% in performance with newest ( they had pre 12.11) drivers compared to riginal release. 680 gained about 2% . So now the perform on par more or less, but 7970 cost less....
As to anwer the TCs question: if you're going to crunch numbers on this card, then yes sir you did waste your $. Otherwise nope.

Reasons:

1. Phys X support, while a gimmick, I liked the visual effects in Borderlands 2 and Batman AC
2. Runs cooler and drain less power, if you're in to that sort of thing
3. if you EVER will go SLI and multi-monitor setup then the green camp is a no-brainer to go. As of moment eyefinity and crossfire and above support is bad. The x58 and x79 platforms are getting nastry lockups, and no clue why some ppl get away lucky, while others getting the problem.


If I had to re-select which way I would go, I'd select 680 way for reason mentioned in point number 3, and only for that reason.
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If you are a bencher, then you should've gotten a 7970. PERIOD...
You already got it, so enjoy it.
Heck, I bench and I bought a gtx670 ftw, cause it was 325 lol (and I got a 2560x1440 monitor too)
If you intend on doing surround and/or use 3d Nvidia is the way to go, you won't regret getting a second 680 for 3d and 120hz, or for Surround.
Doesn't make sense to risk getting a bad card or having to lose money selling your 680 now.
Wait for next gen, and then go Red if you like, if not use a 680 sli for 120hz/3d or Surround and have fun!
EDIT: *note that a) AMD scales better with xfire, and b) does better at higher resolutions, it's just that you have the inconvenience of the adapters and you lose 3d and physx (and CUDA for applications that use those, like Photoshop, After effects, folding, and so on)

How much would the scaling difference be between xfire and sli? I'm not a bencher, just a pure gamer looking for the best fps and the best gaming experience. And yes I do plan on going surround with SLI 680s, but I can get the adapters for 7970 if the performance hit between sli 680s and xfire 7970s is significant gaming wise..(say 10fps or more difference) I WILL lose money definitely if I sell my 680, and that would not be ideal..


AMD scaling for most part is less broken than Nv, mind you when I say broken they're both getting better but neither are perfect. For benching 3dmark 11 is about even now. Then there's Unigine 3.0, 4- 680s = 3- 7970s here. Scaling is seriously broke there. If you can't return the 680 or got a deal on it, keep it. It does 98% of the fps in most things. No sense in heartache over that last 2%.
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Single cards vs Single card.... about the same.

2 vs 2... about the same.

Beyond 2 cards, CF starts scaling better than SLI.

I don't think you made a bad buy, sleep well.
 
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For the people in here saying that these cards "trade blows", remember that this only holds true for the standard 7970 (925) model and 12.11.
The Ghz Edition HD 7970, with the 12.11 beta drivers, is a good 10-15% faster than the GTX 680.
The standard 7970 at stock speeds performs neck and neck with the 680. It's also cheaper and can be clocked to "GE" performance levels and beyond, extremely easily.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/23.html

15%?

In techpowerups suite, they test the ghz 5% faster overall at 1920x1200. The 680 is still 5% faster than the ref 7970.

At 2560x1600, the ghz has a bigger lead at 10% but the 680 is still ahead of the ref 7970 at that speed.

As for OC, we know the 7000 series is a good overclocker. But we are seeing more and more voltage locked versions which evens the playing field some.
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Unfortunately the TPU charts are largely useless, relative performance across all benchmarks is NOT a good way to measure.
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Unfortunately the TPU charts are largely useless, relative performance across all benchmarks is NOT a good way to measure.

Exactly what form of logic did you use to come to this conclusion?

Were we just supposed to take the ones amd optimized the most and call it a day?
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Unfortunately the TPU charts are largely useless, relative performance across all benchmarks is NOT a good way to measure.

Exactly what form of logic did you use to come to this conclusion?

Were we just supposed to take the ones amd optimized the most and call it a day?

Nvidia does better in Blizzard games (D3, WoW, SC2) in TPU's charts. I say pick the games you play and base your decisions around that.
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